Mobil-1 5W-30 does not meet SM/SL standards?

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by PetersRedYaris

Wow, some of you actually think your engine is going to sustain damage due to this? Anyone who thinks their engine is going to crap out due to Mobile 1 use is crazy. I don't care if a bad batch got out onto store shelves, it's a Toyota and can handle it. Use a different oil next change if it makes you feel better, but your Yaris is fine in the meantime...

I don't think that but SilkySmooth was saying that the dealer might deny your warranty due to the usage of M1 if one were to walk in with a blown motor which is definitely not the case.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

I don't think that but SilkySmooth was saying that the dealer might deny your warranty due to the usage of M1 if one were to walk in with a blown motor which is definitely not the case.

I think it all depends on you Service managers temperment at the time - but they typically would have to call in a zone rep to approve. Andyotas arent magic and repeal the laws of material science - in fact 1nzfe utilise a camshaft that is VERY prone to wear in this exact circumstance - cold start wear - just like the Nissan test engine used in the sequence iva test. This whole thing Smacks of the Quakerstate disaster a decade or so ago, though for porbably differing circumstance. YOUR ENGINE MAY NOT FAIL - BUT YOU ARE RISKING A CAM REPLACEMENT POST-WARRANTY FOR A CONSIERABLE OUT OF POCKET CASH OUTLAY. I you wish to argue my points - lets talk about the seq iva a test that M1 fails to pass and go on form there. You cannot argue that a significant sample of M1 failed over a 2 year period - Ashland wouldnt state this if it could not be backe d by hard data. They would be risking losing their Co to the GIANT EOM. - Papa

[TheSilkySmooth]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

I don't think that but SilkySmooth was saying that the dealer might deny your warranty due to the usage of M1 if one were to walk in with a blown motor which is definitely not the case.

Call your service manager and ask him/her; I intend to do this just to hear if they have received a bulletin on this issue - or have read this is an industrial publication. You wont read it in Road and Track or Motor trend they are in bed with the advertisers.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

I don't think that but SilkySmooth was saying that the dealer might deny your warranty due to the usage of M1 if one were to walk in with a blown motor which is definitely not the case.

So if I follow your argument - that the oil you install does not have to meet Sl/Sm ILSAC GF3/4, then I can use John Deere 5w-30 SJ? Why deos my oil cap say: USE 5W-30 API SL APPROVED OIL?

[auxmike]

This stuff gives me a headache.....
I never gave this a thought ever on any of the cars I used to drive and they were all fine. Bought the PepBoys house brand for years.....
My Dad gets the synth change at the Toyo dealer on the '04 Tacoma and the '06 Corolla, and I believe it IS M1. They give him a reciept so it IS warr. covered if something goes wrong....
Face it, this engine sounds screwed up straight off the lot with that scary idle the sounds like bad valves. Notice how many people ask the same ? about the engine sound?
I'm hoping since these cars are made in JAPAN that the engines might be a bit closer to spec. tolerances. As for turning into a rust bucket in the future, who knows!

[TheSilkySmooth]

[QUOTE=auxmike;216723]This stuff gives me a headache.....
My Dad gets the synth change at the Toyo dealer on the '04 Tacoma and the '06 Corolla, and I believe it IS M1. They give him a reciept so it IS warr. covered if something goes wrong....
QUOTE]Ha ha, NOPE! Dealer changes the oil, you change the oil , doesn’t matter to Toyota regional.. MOBIL is at fault and the ball would be in their court IF the oil was found to be deficient and caused the failure. And YOU are stuck in the middle, pal. Don’t be naive. Toyota won’t take the blame for it or pay the bill. Mobil1 is not a Toyota warranteed part. Call you dealer.