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Old 01-26-2009, 07:08 PM   #1
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You have a good mechanic. Germans "get it". While Americans are still clinging to the "change your oil every 3,000 miles" that the oil companies have been feeding us for many, many decades and are hesitant to even go to 5k, the German car makers are going 10, 12, even 15k miles between oil changes.

Doing what is required to maintain your warranty is good, but once your warranty is up, recognize that even 5,000 miles is very conservative with a modern engine using modern oils. Even with conventional oil, I wouldn't hesitate to go to 7 or 8k, maybe even 10k. With good synthetic oil, 15k without question.

My Yaris warranty isn't anywhere near expired, and I've already decided that I'm going with a 15k interval. I'm about half way through it right now and my Mobil 1 looks just like it did when I poured it in. I figure if it's good enough to be the factory interval for the Brazilian-made engine in my wife's MINI Cooper, it's good enough for my Toyota.
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Old 02-12-2009, 03:22 AM   #2
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Good info, some Euro mfg go as long as 40,000 km to an oil change. in North America the BMW LL4 spec is over 20,000 km change, but you have to use a ACEA (euro) oil to meet the standard. THe VW TDi diesel is hard on Oil and the drain is 15,000 km, Better base oils and additives allow the longer drain intervals. The problem is that Canadian and US gas contains Methanol/ethanol which is hard on the oil. I go 12,000 Km with Euro oil with no problems, but would recommend following Toyotas suggestions if you want warrantee.


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You have a good mechanic. Germans "get it". While Americans are still clinging to the "change your oil every 3,000 miles" that the oil companies have been feeding us for many, many decades and are hesitant to even go to 5k, the German car makers are going 10, 12, even 15k miles between oil changes.

Doing what is required to maintain your warranty is good, but once your warranty is up, recognize that even 5,000 miles is very conservative with a modern engine using modern oils. Even with conventional oil, I wouldn't hesitate to go to 7 or 8k, maybe even 10k. With good synthetic oil, 15k without question.

My Yaris warranty isn't anywhere near expired, and I've already decided that I'm going with a 15k interval. I'm about half way through it right now and my Mobil 1 looks just like it did when I poured it in. I figure if it's good enough to be the factory interval for the Brazilian-made engine in my wife's MINI Cooper, it's good enough for my Toyota.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:00 PM   #3
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can you use bmw genuine synthetic oil 5w-30?
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:16 AM   #4
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can you use bmw genuine synthetic oil 5w-30?
Who knows what this stuff is? I thought they use Euro Castrol BMW spec 15W-60? Motul Or Elf extended drain LL A3/B3 5W-40 rating tends to be the best, lowest wear, longest life. Easy 8000 mi OCI intervals for the Yar if not a short distance driver in Manitoba.
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