Why does everyone compare the Yaris vs Fit...

[supmet]

Originally Posted by Jem_hadar

In the last 5+ years, Hyundai has made incredible gains in quality with their cars (styling too). They arent "shitboxes" anymore.

That's funny. So - over the last 5 years - hyundai has turned from the creator of "shitboxes" by your own terminology, to "one of the best."

How exactly do you know this?? Considering none of the cars created in this "5 year golden age of hyundai," have been in the consumers hands long enough to give conclusive results? I still don't see many 04 hyundais, and again, when I do, they sound like complete crap, and are just hobbling around town waiting to explode on some unsuspecting person. Maybe the complete restructuring and turnaround of hyundai didn't start til 05??

Actually forget it. If you think a company can go from turning out steaming piles to golden eggs overnight, there's no point in this conversation. Go buy a hyundai. I'm sure it will last 10 years, 200k miles with NO problems.

[Jem_hadar]

Originally Posted by supmet

Actually forget it. If you think a company can go from turning out steaming piles to golden eggs overnight, there's no point in this conversation. Go buy a hyundai. I'm sure it will last 10 years, 200k miles with NO problems.

I dont think their cars are "one of the best" -- wasnt me who said that. I merely said they arent crap-cars anymore.

Now granted its only the latest gens that seem to be improvements. there isnt any long-term data to support that they wont fall apart after 5+ years, but with the if you read reviews, hyndais are being almost universally lambasted anymore by reviewers.

The quality of internal materials is now running close to par w/ others in their respective segments (eg. accent vs. yaris, elentra (touring) vs. corolla (matrix))

i woudlnt be surprised to see these current gen hyundais last 6,7,8 years.

and just to note, ive had my yaris now 3 years, and ive had lots of probs w/ it, and its a wonderful toyota product.

low-beam/high-beam stalk went (couldnt turn on highbeams), rust on breakpads causing whine when breaking, that damned bloody ABS sensor/harness BS (in now for my 4th fix... 3 sensors + the harness now!), radio stopped reading CDs when cold, that recent recall issue, etc)