Handling vs EG Civic

[regal]

Never liked what my Civic's seats do to my lower back.


It sounds like the Yaris is a platform with potential, thats mainly what I wanted to know before a drop $12k on a new car. My first cars were BMW's and they handle great but the quality and reliability was always a nightmare. I swear in 15 years my civic never stranded my once. But it needs so much work (all new bushings, wheel bearings, clutch, cylinder head) that it is time for a new car.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by regal

Never liked what my Civic's seats do to my lower back.


It sounds like the Yaris is a platform with potential, thats mainly what I wanted to know before a drop $12k on a new car. My first cars were BMW's and they handle great but the quality and reliability was always a nightmare. I swear in 15 years my civic never stranded my once. But it needs so much work (all new bushings, wheel bearings, clutch, cylinder head) that it is time for a new car.

yup, has potential

have you considered a 2yr old scion xA? half the price, same engine, in some ways better, came more "loaded" than the yaris. shorter gears though. it'll feel peppier but won't get your 40mpg except on the highway

[regal]

Yes but I am at the age now where I just don't feel like fixing a car. A two year old scion could potentially have been put thru the ringer by a teenager. I like the idea of a 3 year warranty and I can do all the oil changes and PM's so I can be guaranteed 200k miles. With used cars I have always had good luck, but I don't feel like rolling the dice this time. Plus I just never liked the looks of 4-doors.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by regal

Yes but I am at the age now where I just don't feel like fixing a car. A two year old scion could potentially have been put thru the ringer by a teenager. I like the idea of a 3 year warranty and I can do all the oil changes and PM's so I can be guaranteed 200k miles. With used cars I have always had good luck, but I don't feel like rolling the dice this time. Plus I just never liked the looks of 4-doors.

fyi the xb was the car bought by teenagers.. they avoided the xa like the plague

[gaffo]

Originally Posted by regal

Never liked what my Civic's seats do to my lower back.


It sounds like the Yaris is a platform with potential, thats mainly what I wanted to know before a drop $12k on a new car. My first cars were BMW's and they handle great but the quality and reliability was always a nightmare. I swear in 15 years my civic never stranded my once. But it needs so much work (all new bushings, wheel bearings, clutch, cylinder head) that it is time for a new car.

Germans can't make a reliable car - never could figure out how they got such a good rep.

Dad had two POS Porches - fell apart every two weeks

Buddy's got a VW beetle - total POS, broke all the time.

Seems German cars are no better than the POS british cars of old (like the one I own and fixed every two weeks for 8 long long years).


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but Italian, French and Brit cars were never known to be reliable - unlike German cars. What's the story there?

[regal]

Originally Posted by gaffo

Germans can't make a reliable car - never could figure out how they got such a good rep.

When I was into German cars I had to have 2 daily drivers because I was invariably always working on one of them. My father only drove German cars when I was growing up and I thought it was normal to have to work on your car all the time. After I bought this Honda it was like being on vacation, only things it has needed in 135k miles is belts, waterpump, and an exhaust. Bought the SS exhaust on ebay for $150.