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View Poll Results: How many miles do you get per tank pick the closest
430 27 23.28%
400 23 19.83%
370 26 22.41%
340 18 15.52%
310 15 12.93%
280 7 6.03%
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Old 04-22-2009, 01:34 PM   #1
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I picked 400, but it usually shows 375 because I always refuel with 2 bars still showing. Running near empty isn't great on the fuel pump's health.
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Running near empty isn't great on the fuel pump's health.
Over 4 million miles of hypermiling road usage and tank drainage has shown no evidence to support this. This has also been debunked on several automotive shows and in automotive blogs. Additionally, no modern Toyota owner's manual mentions anything about this.

I have also heard folks inanely talk about sediment being a problem with a low fuel level. This is a non-issue for two reasons: 1) Our fuel pump has in intake screen that blocks any debris over an unacceptable size, and 2) It's not like most of that sediment is buoyant anyway, meaning it is always in the bottom of the tank regardless of the fuel level.
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Over 4 million miles of hypermiling road usage and tank drainage has shown no evidence to support this. This has also been debunked on several automotive shows and in automotive blogs. Additionally, no modern Toyota owner's manual mentions anything about this.

I have also heard folks inanely talk about sediment being a problem with a low fuel level. This is a non-issue for two reasons: 1) Our fuel pump has in intake screen that blocks any debris over an unacceptable size, and 2) It's not like most of that sediment is buoyant anyway, meaning it is always in the bottom of the tank regardless of the fuel level.
They wouldn't. Most manuals make no mention of timing belt service, even when most aren't free-wheeling design and will cause instantly bent valves. So, if they won't warn about major engine damage in the owner's manual, don't expect them to get you excited about a fuel pump. You're not in the real world, you're just a reader. I've changed 6 fuel pumps in the past 10 years, on ONE vehicle. All brand new AC Delco/Delphi fuel pumps, wire harness replaced each time...lady finally admitted that her fuel gauge almost never gets above 1/4 and doesn't put in the $5 or whatever is handy until the low fuel light has been on for a while. It's been over 2 years now and her fuel pump isn't giving her trouble now, since she now refuels before low fuel light warns her.

And the sediment isn't just in the bottom of the tank, it's also at the bottom of the fuel tray that the fuel pump is mounted in. Fuel pump intake screens with remote mounted filters isn't something new and isn't a very good excuse. Countless thousands of in-tank fuel pumps have failed and all of them have some sort of strainer or filter mounted to the pump, and they failed, so it's something besides non-sediment that's causing them to fail. If you can list even one make or model of car that has in-tank fuel pumps installed without a straining device I'd sure like to know.

But of course this isn't the way you do it so it's a sure bet that I'm wrong. Like the guy that just posted that he wished he had more HP...since it didn't agree with your way of thinking and your needs you told him his opinion wasn't valid. I didn't call you on it but another member did.
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I picked 400, but it usually shows 375 because I always refuel with 2 bars still showing.
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