Whats wrong with Rota's?

[Nagoya_TRD.]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

You're 100% right. And when I'm shelling out that kind of money for a car, I would expect it to have BBS, Volks, Enkei, and such kinds of wheels. But you just said it in bold above. Like I said, a low-pressure, gravity-cast aluminum wheel is going to be fine for most people, and that includes most Yaris owners. Most people putting custom wheels on their cars are driving them to work, to the grocery store, and such. I'd bet the number of wheels that get pushed to limits where a forged wheel would actually make a difference are less than 1%, and probably even less so on a Yaris.

Even then, not all wheels are round. Each manufacturer has a different casting procedures, and strengths for the materials that they use. Using Rotas to putt around town is different from using Rotas for "driving". A cast racing dynamics or enkei wheel is not going to have the same strength as a Konig/XXR/Rota wheel.

When i shell out cash to "upgrade" my wheels, i want an UPGRADE, not something that is the same as the OEM wheels, just with a different LOOK. Just my .02

But, i think this thread pretty much explains why most serious performance teams/drivers/owners don't really care much rotas for performance.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

Does Konig really resell Rota products or are they simply similar? I don't know if Konig actually makes any wheels, though. They're all coming out of a few factories in Asia. Rota produces in The Philippines; a lot of Konig products come out of Taiwan (at least mine did).

i have a set of konig wheels circa 1998 that are stamped ROTA on the rear face

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by Malaya1221

tamago koenig =

not sure what that means but koenig = serious fabrication geniuses.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

I'd love to see more from them. Do you have a Web site address?

http://www.koenig-specials.com/homep...20englisch.htm

[Malaya1221]

Originally Posted by Tamago

not sure what that means but koenig = serious fabrication geniuses.

nevermind....was looking at some other things...r they the same company as koenig competition?

[GnomeBody]

I hate to jump back so many pages but...

Rotas suck ass b/c they blatantly steal their designs from reputable manufactures to cater towards the individuals who want the "look" of expensive wheels but don't want the spend it (for whatever reason, viable or not).

I have to disagree. Rotas dont suck because they borrow a "look" from another company. Thats like saying you look like shit in a red t-shirt because I started wearing red t-shirts first.

If I were in the hat making business and my competition Started selling a very popular "Top hat" style, why the hell wouldn't I want to sell top hats too, especially if I could do it for cheaper. Im sure there are alot of "poor" people who would love to be able to afford the latest stlye.

If there is anything to be said about rota versus another company it should be about the construction quality VS. the price tag

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by GnomeBody

I hate to jump back so many pages but...



I have to disagree. Rotas dont suck because they borrow a "look" from another company. Thats like saying you look like shit in a red t-shirt because I started wearing red t-shirts first.

If I were in the hat making business and my competition Started selling a very popular "Top hat" style, why the hell wouldn't I want to sell top hats too, especially if I could do it for cheaper. Im sure there are alot of "poor" people who would love to be able to afford the latest stlye.

If there is anything to be said about rota versus another company it should be about the construction quality VS. the price tag

AHAHA

lets take a very detailed product and compare it to a single color T-shirt.

ultimately Rota still sucks b/c they can't come up with their own "VISUAL" designs.

[schleppy]

I don't know why everyone craps on Rota all the time. Being a former Subaru guy, I'm used to hearing more good than bad about Rota. Rotas were immensely popular with the Suby guys. Between myself and my friends we've run at least 10+ different sets of Rotas without a single issue. I personally ran three different sets.

Are there stronger/lighter/better wheels out there? Sure. Are Rotas absolute crap? In my experience, not at all. For the price they are great.

Just my 2c

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by schleppy

I don't know why everyone craps on Rota all the time. Being a former Subaru guy, I'm used to hearing more good than bad about Rota. Rotas were immensely popular with the Suby guys. Between myself and my friends we've run at least 10+ different sets of Rotas without a single issue. I personally ran three different sets.

Are there stronger/lighter/better wheels out there? Sure. Are Rotas absolute crap? In my experience, not at all. For the price they are great.

Just my 2c

10+ isn't a very good global sample set, but honestly I'm glad nothing happened.

when a wheel "fails" it's supposed to stay in one piece. it hurts to see the photos of the wheels where the hoop separates.....

[GnomeBody]

lets take a very detailed product and compare it to a single color T-shirt.

What? you dont like red?


well anyway, the point was that no one has exclusive rights to a style.

Frankly, I think Rota is business smart for recreating 'Popular' designs and selling them at reasonable prices( assuming there not breaking patents or copyrights) Rather than wasting money on R&D for a custom line that might not sell as well.

[FunctionSpec]

Support the companies that design and build products for the enthusiast.

DON'T support knockoff companies that try to undercut other companies that provide quality & original products into the market place.

Sooner or later those knockoff companies won't have companies to copy from.







Knockoff wheels support terrorism......

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by GnomeBody

What? you dont like red?


well anyway, the point was that no one has exclusive rights to a style.

Frankly, I think Rota is business smart for recreating 'Popular' designs and selling them at reasonable prices( assuming there not breaking patents or copyrights) Rather than wasting money on R&D for a custom line that might not sell as well.

would you buy a "replica" yaris that was lower quality?

[Brad D]

Im going to buy Rota grids.. i would not spend 2G'2 for wheels on a yaris.. I have volks GT7's on my 98 240sx

they are 80$ and light.. and im sure a yaris would never brake them unless you hid a curb sideways at 50

[mastaofdisasta]

Originally Posted by Russelt3hPirate

would you buy a "replica" yaris that was lower quality?

if they made a fake yaris kit car, with a toyota engine id be on that like white on rice

[mastaofdisasta]

not buying rotas because they are replicas is like not buying a yaris because it doesnt use the original design of the original combustion engine, because its just a copy

[supmet]

Originally Posted by Brad D

i would not spend 2G'2 for wheels on a yaris..

you don't have to :D

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/1145055190.html

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by FunctionSpec

Support the companies that design and build products for the enthusiast.

DON'T support knockoff companies that try to undercut other companies that provide quality & original products into the market place.

Sooner or later those knockoff companies won't have companies to copy from.



Knockoff wheels support terrorism......

you fail to realize that there are people who will NEVER spend ridiculous amounts of $$ on wheels. does it cost Volk 3X the money to design a wheel? hell no, they pay some entry level 3D cad guy minimum wage to design their shit, so why do we go on and on about it being the original design. it's a round cylinder with a center hub and spokes for god's sake.

i'm not pro-rota. but i am anti-waste. and $2000 wheels on a $9000 car is a waste, unless you can PROVE that said wheels increase the resale value of the car by $2000.

nope?


then give up. without knockoff wheels, there would be no market for "genuine" wheels. it gives you wheeleeetist assholes something to snub your nose at the rest of us for, and the fanbois something to save for 6months to be able to finally put on their econobox, followed immediately by them getting curbed to shit by a valet or your mom/sister/girlfriend (no sexist comment, just stating the way it's gone down in my past)

what's worth more, a curbed to hell volk or a curbed to hell rota?

[Tamago]

here's what i think about rota.

if you're buying wheels, and you CHOOSE a rota, you have no imagination. there are plenty of other quality non-jdm-fanboi-elite-asshole wheels out there that aren't direct knockoffs...

just stay away from XXR/herpemax wheels lol