K&N Filters

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Go to this link and see the numbers. On their home page, they have a link thats says, "Find Vehicle Horsepower Gain." If you click on it and go through all of the steps you will come to this page.

http://www.knfilters.com/search/hp_search.aspx

Now can you tell me how much the drop-in filter will increase your HP??

By the way, what was the weather like when you tested the HP increase of the K&N drop-in in Your Yaris?

Wrong, you're the one with the K&N filter in the Yaris, that needs to be cleaned every month due to your extremely dusty conditions; you must be impressed with their decals

And why did you need to throw away my K&N link...it was the direct link for the Yaris P/N, with the "buy now" option?

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=33-2360

From that link:

"K&N’s replacement air filters are designed to increase horsepower and acceleration"

It's not my fault that K&N is too chicken-$h!t and cowardly to backup their so called increase horsepower and acceleration claims with an actual number.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Wrong, you're the one with the K&N filter in the Yaris, that needs to be cleaned every month due to your extremely dusty conditions; you must be impressed with their decals

And why did you need to throw away my K&N link...it was the direct link for the Yaris P/N, with the "buy now" option?

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=33-2360

From that link:

"K&N’s replacement air filters are designed to increase horsepower and acceleration"

It's not my fault that K&N is too chicken-$h!t and cowardly to backup their so called increase horsepower and acceleration claims with an actual number.

If I had the OEM filter it would need to be changed every month but with my K&N I have to service it about 3-4 times a year. And you still didn't answer my question....what was the weather like when you had the K&N filter tested in your car?

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

If I had the OEM filter it would need to be changed every month but with my K&N I have to service it about 3-4 times a year. And you still didn't answer my question....what was the weather like when you had the K&N filter tested in your car?

Why ask about my K&N filter? Never said I installed one in my Yaris.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Why ask about my K&N filter? Never said I installed one in my Yaris.

Exactly!!! Then why are you so sure about your claims, if you haven't even tested it out for yourself. It might increase HP by .0000000000001%

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Exactly!!! Then why are you so sure about your claims, if you haven't even tested it out for yourself. It might increase HP by .0000000000001%

Please tell me how a stock Yaris with a drop-in will compare to modded Mustang GTs and a modded '05 GTO. Never said I had one in my Yaris, you said I had one in my Yaris. I'll never buy another K&N filter, I've outgrown them and their decals and their so-called increased performance claims...and it'd be real nice if K&N had the stones to at least say .0000000000001% to their so-called "increase in performance and acceleration" claim that's listed with the Yaris P/N on the K&N *buy now* link.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Please tell me how a stock Yaris with a drop-in will compare to modded Mustang GTs and a modded '05 GTO. Never said I had one in my Yaris, you said I had one in my Yaris. I'll never buy another K&N filter, I've outgrown them and their decals and their so-called increased performance claims...and it'd be real nice if K&N had the stones to at least say .0000000000001% to their so-called "increase in performance and acceleration" claim that's listed with the Yaris P/N on the K&N *buy now* link.

Thats exactly what I have been trying to get you to realize!! K&N doesn't make an exact HP claim for the Yaris(drop-in) like they do their Cone filters and intakes system. I know you never said you had one in your Yaris. I was just setting you up to say, "I don't even have one," even though you are making all of these claims about them in our Yaris's. You are making your claim on other vehicles and stuff you found on the internet rather than actual results you have seen in your own Yaris. The K&N filter for the Yaris might actual decrease the stock HP. The information that you are looking at on their site is just their general overall statement about their filters. If you keep researching you will find where it states that actual, real world HP increase will differ. Thats why they have the link "K&N Power Gain Search by Vehicle."
Just because the K&N will increase a Mustang by 15 HP doesn't mean it will do the same for a Yaris.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

"Oh, so Toyota is installing K&N filters on every vehicle, or probably way less than 1% of the new vehicles being sold...thought so."


You missed the "or" ...but of course you miss a lot on this thread, right? Thought so.

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Thats exactly what I have been trying to get you to realize!!

No, I'm trying to make you realize just how misleading K&N is when they state their "increase in performance and acceleration" claim that's listed with the Yaris P/N on the K&N *buy now* link - IF they were honest they'd put the "K&N Power Gain Search by Vehicle" link right next to the "buy now" option. They won't ever do that, they might lose some sales.

I know you never said you had one in your Yaris. I was just setting you up to say, "I don't even have one," even though you are making all of these claims about them in our Yaris's.

I never made any claims about the Yaris, I knew it'd never be power that could be felt on a stock Yaris, I'm just asking about K&N's so-called "claims" about increased performance on their boxes and what they claim on their buy-me-right-now page...and what other people say on these type threads.

You are making your claim on other vehicles and stuff you found on the internet rather than actual results you have seen in your own Yaris.

I've had K&N on my other vehicles, and I made a decision about K&N based on my experience...in 26 years at this I've been under a hood or 2. I stick with what I saw. Next time I'll get you a photo so you won't belly ache and get defensive for days, hopefully.

The K&N filter for the Yaris might actual decrease the stock HP. The information that you are looking at on their site is just their general overall statement about their filters.

To increase their sales, I trust. The info is a sales pitch for the Yaris owner that went to the trouble to see what P/N fit their car, and just above the buy link is the claim about increased performance. Sad.

If you keep researching you will find where it states that actual, real world HP increase will differ. Thats why they have the link "K&N Power Gain Search by Vehicle."

That's something a buyer does AFTER they've already hit the "buy me" now link, perhaps, or never does at all when they have the filter in their hands at the parts store, reading the claims on their box?

Just because the K&N will increase a Mustang by 15 HP doesn't mean it will do the same for a Yaris.

Wonder why they say "increase in performance and acceleration" ...on every box?