K&N Filters

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

LOL...you just quoted yourself. That quote is something you posted on a previous page!!! You just made fun of yourself!!!! Hahahaha, this is great!

No, silly, my quote was because you said K&N was so great that Toyota used it on a dealer installed package, a long time ago...so I said what, they love them so much they now install K&N on every new Toyota being sold...OR do they actually install K&N filters on WAY less than 1% of new Toyotas being sold. You said it was because of costs. Really? That's the only reason? You made that up, OR you've got a link that shows Toyota's statement on K&N filters for their new vehicles? :)

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Originally Posted by b_hickman11
Show me the post where I said they put them in every vehicle??

"Oh, so Toyota is installing K&N filters on every vehicle, or probably way less than 1% of the new vehicles being sold...thought so."


You missed the "or" ...but of course you miss a lot on this thread, right? Thought so.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

No, silly, my quote was because you said K&N was so great that Toyota used it on a dealer installed package, a long time ago...so I said what, they love them so much they now install K&N on every new Toyota being sold...OR do they actually install K&N filters on WAY less than 1% of new Toyotas being sold. You said it was because of costs. Really? That's the only reason? You made that up, OR you've got a link that shows Toyota's statement on K&N filters for their new vehicles? :)

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Originally Posted by b_hickman11
Show me the post where I said they put them in every vehicle??

"Oh, so Toyota is installing K&N filters on every vehicle, or probably way less than 1% of the new vehicles being sold...thought so."


You missed the "or" ...but of course you miss a lot on this thread, right? Thought so.

You posted that after I had already said that they do not install them on very many Vehicles So I already beat you to the your point. I am aware that it is probably less than 1%. Also if you notice my post, I said, "ONE of the reasons....." I aware that there is other reasons. Another reason is because they make more money if they put in a throw away filter in. Some owners, not all, don't know what % (so don't say I said all owners), will go to the dealer for service and the dealer will make money from new filters. So remember, I said one reason.

p.s. It wasn't a dealer installed package.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

You posted that after I had already said that they do not install them on very many Vehicles So I already beat you to the your point. I am aware that it is probably less than 1%. Also if you notice my post, I said, "ONE of the reasons....." I aware that there is other reasons. Another reason is because they make more money if they put in a throw away filter in. Some owners, not all, don't know what % (so don't say I said all owners), will go to the dealer for service and the dealer will make money from new filters. So remember, I said one reason.

p.s. It wasn't a dealer installed package.

Just because you can add something on a build page doesn't mean it's factory installed. Most sites even warn that prices might not be correct because DEALER "installation charges" will vary. I doubt that my tip was installed on the assembly line, probably yanked off of the dealer's parts shelf, even tho' I installed it on the build page.

All I know is that you first wrote that Toyota likes them, that's why it was installed on a Tacoma, and I fired back with my very first reply to that with: If Toyota thinks they're so great why are K&N filters installed almost never, when compared to the paper filters being installed on new Toyotas. Say what you want, I say it's because paper FILTERS better, and there doesn't seem to be too hot of a demand for K&N or they wouldn't be getting outsold by such a wide margain.

btw: If you just can't seem to get enough of me, and you find this topic so spellbinding, how bout we shift this to our private inboxes? Can I send you a buddy request? ;)

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Just because you can add something on a build page doesn't mean it's factory installed. Most sites even warn that prices might not be correct because DEALER "installation charges" will vary. I doubt that my tip was installed on the assembly line, probably yanked off of the dealer's parts shelf, even tho' I installed it on the build page.

All I know is that you first wrote that Toyota likes them, that's why it was installed on a Tacoma, and I fired back with my very first reply to that with: If Toyota thinks they're so great why are K&N filters installed almost never, when compared to the paper filters being installed on new Toyotas. Say what you want, I say it's because paper FILTERS better, and there doesn't seem to be too hot of a demand for K&N or they wouldn't be getting outsold by such a wide margain.

btw: If you just can't seem to get enough of me, and you find this topic so spellbinding, how bout we shift this to our private inboxes? Can I send you a buddy request? ;)

I watched my Taco roll off of the delivery carrier from GST. I even helped them pull off the white protective coverings! I touched the truck before the dealership touched it! So Im sorry your little tip was probably glued on at your dealer but my system was done before the dealer! Yes I did say that Toyota likes them. Do you think they would still install them on SOME of their products if they hated them?? Surely not. There is a lot of products out there that are better than what Toyota installs on their products. Tires for example. They install tires that only last around 25,000 miles when there are tires out there that can triple that! But I guess Toyota knows what is better huh!

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

I watched my Taco roll off of the delivery carrier from GST. I even helped them pull off the white protective coverings! I touched the truck before the dealership touched it!

Nice. You made the same statement a year ago, but you didn't go into any of the details about watching it roll off the carrier...etc.

So Im sorry your little tip was probably glued on at your dealer but my system was done before the dealer!

Not what I was talking about. I was talking about how most "power packages" are dealer installed...sometimes the vehicle has to be drop-shipped to Florida (for example) when you start adding "build" options to a new car/truck. But it seems to not be the case, with your Tacoma. Not how it usually works, so not a very good example.

Yes I did say that Toyota likes them. Do you think they would still install them on SOME of their products if they hated them?? Surely not. There is a lot of products out there that are better than what Toyota installs on their products. Tires for example. They install tires that only last around 25,000 miles when there are tires out there that can triple that! But I guess Toyota knows what is better huh!

I thought we were talking about filters...

BTW, I've seen dealers install "power packages" that they "hated" because of various reasons - they don't have to love what they sell and install...don't know why you think that's some sort of law. Personally I'd think it would be up to the customer to love it or hate it.

And I don't see any new PMs, so I guess it was too much to ask to keep this inspirational exchange to ourselves. You're right, we really should share it with our friends.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Nice. You made the same statement a year ago, but you didn't go into any of the details about watching it roll off the carrier...etc.




Not what I was talking about. I was talking about how most "power packages" are dealer installed...sometimes the vehicle has to be drop-shipped to Florida (for example) when you start adding "build" options to a new car/truck. But it seems to not be the case, with your Tacoma. Not how it usually works, so not a very good example.

I don't know...doesn't appear that the dust problem is quite as scarey as you made it out to be. A paper filter would probably last longer than 1 month, like you claimed, and could probably be just shaken out & with a little bit of low pressure shop air applied could be put back in service just as easy as the K&N.





I thought we were talking about filters...

BTW, I've seen dealers install "power packages" that they "hated" because of various reasons - they don't have to love what they sell and install...don't know why you think that's some sort of law. Personally I'd think it would be up to the customer to love it or hate it.

And I don't see any new PMs, so I guess it was too much to ask to keep this inspirational exchange to ourselves. You're right, we really should share it with our friends.

Yes I did make a statement a year ago....about my 2008 Yaris not my 2005 Taco. I did a preference order on the Yaris. Which means I picked it up the same day it came. The Taco was a whole other story. I just happen to be there when it was brought in by the carrier. When I talked about "Toyota" Im talking about the folks who build the trucks from the ground up. I'm not talking about Bobby Joe at the dealership that has the job of installing mods that the service manger ordered off of ebay. I would hate it too if my job was to install things that don't exactly match up the the vehicle or something that was installed by a robot at the plant.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Yes I did make a statement a year ago....about my 2008 Yaris not my 2005 Taco. I did a preference order on the Yaris. Which means I picked it up the same day it came. The Taco was a whole other story. I just happen to be there when it was brought in by the carrier. When I talked about "Toyota" Im talking about the folks who build the trucks from the ground up. I'm not talking about Bobby Joe at the dealership that has the job of installing mods that the service manger ordered off of ebay. I would hate it too if my job was to install things that don't exactly match up the the vehicle or something that was installed by a robot at the plant.

What ebay parts are you talking about...I'm talking about official Toyota accessories that are on the "build your Yaris" link at Toyota.com ...just check the boxes...you didn't know that? Whoa!

Ever been to the Mini site? You used to check the box on the JCW package, and it was NOT a factory installed option, maybe it is now?