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Old 07-25-2009, 04:25 PM   #1
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Except that only twenty five percent of your hitting power comes from your arms.
right. so when you drop an elbow from above, backed by the weight of your upper torso, it does extreme damage.

Johnnypaseo is correct, and we both have training in this subject.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:49 PM   #2
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right. so when you drop an elbow from above, backed by the weight of your upper torso, it does extreme damage.

Johnnypaseo is correct, and we both have training in this subject.
Many ways to a solution. My point is that a strike comes from the feet through the legs and into the upper body. The arm - irregardless of whether it's an elbow, a palm strike or a fist - just conveys this energy.

What on Earth did you train for that you'd use such a sacrifice move? You know what I mean by "sacrifice", don't you? I learned "sacrifice" throws where you pull someone over you and drive their heads into the pavement.

I've seen such "drop strikes", but only in Professional Wrestling. It's a "total commitment" move that relies upon the target holding still and not doing something nasty like sticking you on the way down or moving out of the way.

I'm not an expert but I don't see the utility of such a move in many cases. However if you'd like to elaborate I'd be happy to listen to you.

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Many ways to a solution. My point is that a strike comes from the feet through the legs and into the upper body. The arm - irregardless of whether it's an elbow, a palm strike or a fist - just conveys this energy.

What on Earth did you train for that you'd use such a sacrifice move? You know what I mean by "sacrifice", don't you? I learned "sacrifice" throws where you pull someone over you and drive their heads into the pavement.

I've seen such "drop strikes", but only in Professional Wrestling. It's a "total commitment" move that relies upon the target holding still and not doing something nasty like sticking you on the way down or moving out of the way.

I'm not an expert but I don't see the utility of such a move in many cases. However if you'd like to elaborate I'd be happy to listen to you.

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I will also not disagree with the power of kicks/stomps. Those were extremely efficient in the no longer existing MMA org, PRIDE ( earlier purchased by UFC). Stomps/head kicks were allowed in this organization and those rules can't even get approved in UFC. It is thought as to be too dangerous. PRIDE was held in Japan, and ironically, they didn't allow elbows.

Mauricio "Shogun" Rua is a prime example of a fighter that used "soccer kicks" in MMA for his advantage.

Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO7Cde9Is7g

Referring to your "drop strikes;" At the most recent ufc event (UFC 100), fighters Micheal Bisping and Dan henerson had a very entertaining fight. The fight resulted in a knock out, and with what I think would be considered a "drop strike." Brutal? Yes. However, the man who was knocked out is Micheal Bisping. He is an english man who was constantly trash talking team america and dan henderson. In the interview given immediately after the fight, Dan Henderson says that he does know when guys are knocked out. However, that last strike was to "shut him up for a little bit."

*Notice both of Dan's feet are off of the mat during his final strike.

Check it out.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zvEGm64fg
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