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Old 07-27-2009, 11:31 PM   #1
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NEVER buy a car that has been "dealer swapped." If you do, ask for a flatbed tow. We all know that engines have a break in period, I can assure you, the guy behind the wheel wasn't a 65 year old man that drives slow. The "kids" that work at these dealerships might think, "This car is as good as sold" so they put it through the paces. Always buy a car that you can see, that's my motto, and never leave a "down payment" and come back for the car later either, if they smack into your car while they are waiting for the rest of your money, and you noticed that your car has been hit before you even bought it, if you back out, they may keep your deposit because you can't prove the car didn't have the damage when you first looked at it.

Would you buy a "new" blender that has been purchased, used to blend a couple of smoothies and God knows what else, then returned to the store and put back on the shelf? Would you purchase a "new" pair of sneakers that have been worn once or twice, returned to the store and now you get to wear them? Not really new is it? 5 miles max, from the assembly plant, onto the truck, then onto the barge, then off the barge, then onto another truck, then onto the dealer lot, that's new.

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Old 07-28-2009, 12:35 AM   #2
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NEVER buy a car that has been "dealer swapped." If you do, ask for a flatbed tow. We all know that engines have a break in period, I can assure you, the guy behind the wheel wasn't a 65 year old man that drives slow. The "kids" that work at these dealerships might think, "This car is as good as sold" so they put it through the paces. Always buy a car that you can see, that's my motto, and never leave a "down payment" and come back for the car later either, if they smack into your car while they are waiting for the rest of your money, and you noticed that your car has been hit before you even bought it, if you back out, they may keep your deposit because you can't prove the car didn't have the damage when you first looked at it.

Would you buy a "new" blender that has been purchased, used to blend a couple of smoothies and God knows what else, then returned to the store and put back on the shelf? Would you purchase a "new" pair of sneakers that have been worn once or twice, returned to the store and now you get to wear them? Not really new is it? 5 miles max, from the assembly plant, onto the truck, then onto the barge, then off the barge, then onto another truck, then onto the dealer lot, that's new.
Actually, most dealer drivers are retirees who are back working part time.

And good luck getting the model, color, features, and everything else you want on the lot with 5 miles or less. That is like winning the lottery.

I've seen many cars even roll off the truck (from the factory) with more than 5 miles on it. Then the dealer is required to road test it and gas it up (PDI) which is another couple of miles. Then, many models are test driven any time a customer is interested in a particular model where the demo won't do. And in my experience, about 25% of our new cars are swapped in with 50-300 miles on them.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:12 PM   #3
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Actually, most dealer drivers are retirees who are back working part time.

And good luck getting the model, color, features, and everything else you want on the lot with 5 miles or less. That is like winning the lottery.

I've seen many cars even roll off the truck (from the factory) with more than 5 miles on it. Then the dealer is required to road test it and gas it up (PDI) which is another couple of miles. Then, many models are test driven any time a customer is interested in a particular model where the demo won't do. And in my experience, about 25% of our new cars are swapped in with 50-300 miles on them.
Mine had 14miles, and I highly suspect it came from a dealership which was about 10-12miles away.

under 5 doesn't sound too crazy if you live in Washington (where I bought it)
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:21 PM   #4
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Mine had 14miles, and I highly suspect it came from a dealership which was about 10-12miles away.

under 5 doesn't sound too crazy if you live in Washington (where I bought it)
< 5 miles on a new purchase happens but one shouldn't expect it. Most of our non-swapped new deliveries average 5-15 miles. I've seen very few get delivered with less than 5 miles.

And why argue a few miles when your Toyota will go 400,000 miles.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:37 AM   #5
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Anyway, the best way to break one in is to drive it. No special treatment.
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:22 PM   #6
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Anyway, the best way to break one in is to drive it. No special treatment.
amen...i drove mine back and forth to las vegas, twice, shortly after getting it...cruisin nicely at speeds varying between 70-90mph...i'm about to reach my 22k mile oil change and she purrrrs like a happy little synthetic oil fed kitten lol
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:41 PM   #7
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My car had 7 miles before I test drove it,and 8 after the test drive.
Guess it's was'nt switched around much.....
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:27 PM   #8
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[QUOTE=Kal-El;359657]Actually, most dealer drivers are retirees who are back working part time.

and I suppose little old ladies as well
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:05 AM   #9
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and I suppose little old ladies as well
I've only seen a few women out of the 40-50 drivers I've dealt with. Most of the drivers are indeed between 50 and 65 years of age.
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I've only seen a few women out of the 40-50 drivers I've dealt with. Most of the drivers are indeed between 50 and 65 years of age.
TRUE fricking that.
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I've only seen a few women out of the 40-50 drivers I've dealt with. Most of the drivers are indeed between 50 and 65 years of age.
All the drivers (that I've seen) at my Toyota dealership are def like retirees just doing some relaxed, part-time work for extra money in their retirement.
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Old 07-29-2009, 10:34 PM   #12
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Actually, most dealer drivers are retirees who are back working part time.

And good luck getting the model, color, features, and everything else you want on the lot with 5 miles or less. That is like winning the lottery.

I've seen many cars even roll off the truck (from the factory) with more than 5 miles on it. Then the dealer is required to road test it and gas it up (PDI) which is another couple of miles. Then, many models are test driven any time a customer is interested in a particular model where the demo won't do. And in my experience, about 25% of our new cars are swapped in with 50-300 miles on them.
As for "retirees" working at dealerships, I have yet to meet one, everyone is between 18-40, including the managers. Maybe you are talking about Dodge dealerships...

If I REALLY REALLY NEED A SPECIFIC COLOR and I want to be picky about it, I would locate the car myself, there is the Internet for this, and I would pick it up myself. Someone that buys a car with 100 miles on it as "new" doesn't know enough about cars or automobiles in general to make that decision, when I test drive a car, I put it through it's paces, it gets funny looks from the salesguy sitting next to me esp. when he grabs the "oh shit" bar and asks me to go back to the lot... I know i'm not buying THAT car, but one like it, with 5 miles or less. Revs reaching the 6,000 mark are not good for any new engine, read the owner's manual.

I've never seen a dealer road test any car, and I have bought new cars with 1/2 tank of gas, call me stupid for not asking for a full tank, but that is usually the least of my worries when I buy a car. Actually I got a gas card when I bought my Yaris, now that I think about it.

But, ce la vie (is that how you spell it?) there are those that will still buy a 200 mile "new" car and not expect any premature cylinder wear or valve taps due to mishandling of the vehicle at its onset.

Don't get me wrong... knock off 3k-5k from the sticker price and I will consider a "new" 200 miles vehicle anyday.

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But, ce la vie (is that how you spell it?) there
C'est la vie.
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