For you Hypermilers and other MPG h4xx0rz

[TheRealEnth]

Yeah, people are always gonna be assholes... then again i find myself on the other side of the table... Im behind a guy... in a 2 lane road... and both the cars are going identical f**king matching speeds... so all the cars behind them cant pass. Or in another case, they take like a 5 second reaction time to start moving on green that by the time the 4th car passes the intersection, it turns red and traps everyone behind.

[YarisOwnersDad]

Originally Posted by TheRealEnth

Yeah, people are always gonna be assholes... then again i find myself on the other side of the table... Im behind a guy... in a 2 lane road... and both the cars are going identical f**king matching speeds... so all the cars behind them cant pass. Or in another case, they take like a 5 second reaction time to start moving on green that by the time the 4th car passes the intersection, it turns red and traps everyone behind.

Whoa! You just hit on two of my pet peeves.

I HATE it when someone on a two lane road gets up behind the car in front him and will neither pass the car nor leave enough space in between to allow me to pass him without also having to pass the car in front of him.

I also hate people who are so slow to get started from a traffic light. I don't expect them to floor the accelerator, but I do expect them to start moving when the light turns green and the car in front of them has already moved on.

This is especially annoying at the end of exit ramps where there is a stoplight, and you have to turn left. (It's usually a yield sign for those turning right.) Those lights are never green for the exit ramp traffic for very long, and when they turn green when I am several cars back in line, I sit there and fume as I see ten car length gaps develop between the cars that are pulling out and making the turn as I await my turn to do so.

I make sure that I stay right on the bumper of the car ahead of me as I make my turn out of consideration for the people behind me. I don't normally tailgate, but in that situation I am going slow enough that I can stop in a very short distance and should not have to worry about running into the back of the guy ahead of me.

Tom

[47_MasoN_47]

Yeah I mean I'm not the most patient with people who hesitate at green lights or slow down to 2mph to go around a turn. It is annoying when people expect me to redline every time I'm starting off though. I had a guy behind me the other day that kept honking at me wanting me to turn out in front of traffic. There was twice I could have made it but I'm sure I would have had to get up in the 3400 RPM range to avoid being smashed. I don't see the use in wasting that much gas or risking the personal safety of my fiance or myself either one.

Maybe I should get a bumper sticker that says "I'm hypermiling...you can wait."

[1stToyota]

I'm usually pulling away faster than anybody around me, go 65+ mph, run 32psi, still got 43.5 mpg last tank (real Shell), 44.6 mpg the tank before (real Conoco). Don't know what I'd get if I actually tried.

[TheJames]

Originally Posted by 47_MasoN_47

Yeah I mean I'm not the most patient with people who hesitate at green lights or slow down to 2mph to go around a turn. It is annoying when people expect me to redline every time I'm starting off though. I had a guy behind me the other day that kept honking at me wanting me to turn out in front of traffic. There was twice I could have made it but I'm sure I would have had to get up in the 3400 RPM range to avoid being smashed. I don't see the use in wasting that much gas or risking the personal safety of my fiance or myself either one.

Maybe I should get a bumper sticker that says "I'm hypermiling...you can wait."

there's no need to hold up traffic so you don't have to get over 3400 rpm. if there's someone behind you, and you can pull out without blowing your motor, do it. hypermile when it doesn't inconvenience everyone else. sitting 2 wide on a four lane=asshole.... not going when the light turns green=asshold.... not pulling out when you can clearly make it but don't want to rev over 3400 when people, who could be in a serious hurry are behind you=well... i'm not going to call you an asshole for that post but thats very inconsiderate.

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by TheJames

if there's someone behind you, and you can pull out without blowing your motor, do it.

Negative. Unless you are some form of emergency worker on their way to an emergency, in which case you would have some form of audio-visual signals to let me know such, then you have absolutely no good reason to be in that much of a hurry. It's just your ego talking, and egos aren't real.

We do not live on a race track.

[supmet]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Negative. Unless you are some form of emergency worker on their way to an emergency, in which case you would have some form of audio-visual signals to let me know such, then you have absolutely no good reason to be in that much of a hurry. It's just your ego talking, and egos aren't real.

We do not live on a race track.

Where do you draw the line then? Being the uber-est hypermiler in the world, I refuse to rev over 1200 rpm. I believe this is the best combination of highest mpg + minimal engine wear. Unfortunately, due to my strict self imposed safety regulations, I need a 2 mile opening or no cars in view to pull out safely. Should the people at the grocery store have to wait 15 minutes or longer to pull out of a parking lot, just because of my beliefs?

Besides that, its not just ego. Waiting too long to pull out can create bottlenecks behind you, leading to more accidents and a less safe driving environment for many people, not just the one behind you honking.

As others have said, on multiple lane roads, you can drive 1 mph for all I care, but if you are at the front of a one lane land train going unreasonably slow, you probably deserve the sodas and other random debris thrown at you as people pass you.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Negative. Unless you are some form of emergency worker on their way to an emergency, in which case you would have some form of audio-visual signals to let me know such, then you have absolutely no good reason to be in that much of a hurry. It's just your ego talking, and egos aren't real.

We do not live on a race track.

Reality check time...probably 98%ish of the driving population doesn't give a skunk's scrotum about hypermiling driving techniques, they just want to get where they need to be, fast. They don't have time to play games.

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Reality check time...probably 98%ish of the driving population doesn't give a skunk's scrotum about hypermiling driving techniques, they just want to get where they need to be, fast.

Take a dose of reality yourself... I don't care that they don't care, and their wants do not trump my own. Get over it.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Take a dose of reality yourself... I don't care that they don't care, and their wants do not trump my own. Get over it.

i'm one of the most understanding and open minded people out there but i gotta be honest and say that i think you are a bit over the top with your perspective...if you could only read some of your posts on this forum, you'd see why you get some of the feedback you do...i've seen you post next to irrelevant posts in threads that had nothing to do with your response, almost as an undercover way to continue to promote your next-to-nazi hypermile tactics...why you didn't buy a hybrid or, better yet, ride a motorcycle or, hey, i got an idea, why don't you ride a bicycle since you're never in that much of a hurry LOL...no disrespect intended, please don't take this as a personal attack because i respect a lot of the awesome information you've contributed to this forum with but, i wish you could look at some of your own posts objectively and you'd see why you get the response you do sometimes (although i don't think you care)...you realize most everyone on this forum drives a gas sipper and there are people putting around out there in hummers and triton v10's, right?...if it's really not about ego's, then why do you take such pride in being the king of hypermilers?...unfortunately, if i've learned anything about the way you carry yourself on here, i'm sure you're just going to try and disect my post, piece by piece, in an effort to out logic me, rather than accept a different perspective and 'get over it' lol...

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Take a dose of reality yourself... I don't care that they don't care, and their wants do not trump my own. Get over it.

That's your problem. One hypermiler out of 100 cars around him, that are driving differently, doesn't have the right to get pissied off. They're just not into the 3 extra drops of gas sqeezing games like you are. Sorry. Flow with traffic, or take the bus.

[1stToyota]

Ouch!

Anyways, I just hope that the average hypermiler out there is getting WAAAAY better mpg than I'm getting, for all their efforts. My last tank I got 44.4 mpg [1/3 city - 2/3 highway], by going around 5 mph over the speed limit, using the a/c, not coasting in gear, running 32psi in my tires, flowing with traffic and getting up to speed quickly, etc...