The open political discussion thread. Read the first post!

[PaidTimeOff]

Originally Posted by JBougie

Have you read the bill? Actually READ the bill? I can sit there all day until I am red in the face that the damn bill says nothing about everyone receiving a flying purple pony - however, unless you READ that for yourself TAKE NO ONES WORD FOR IT because you might just be needing to get a stable to house your new flying purple pony.

No, I haven't read the actual bill (and by admission, neither have you) but it's generally accepted that factcheck.org is a highly HIGHLY reputable source. They lean neither left nor right, nor up or down. They aren't funded by any outside sources or lobbyists (unlike many of our countries politicians). I'm honestly not going to sit around reading a 1000+ page bill that's going through congress (this is what we pay our state senators and representatives to do) and if you're telling me you really were going to read all of it, I'm sorry but I just don't believe you.

Seriously, go to the article, check out their sources. If they aren't reputable, come on here and explain why. They simply compiled the facts in a convenient and easy to access place. A TRUE no-spin zone, if you will. Don't go around ragging on people for not reading the bill when you yourself have not even gotten through it. "Do as I say not as I do" much?

[JBougie]

Originally Posted by PaidTimeOff

No, I haven't read the actual bill (and by admission, neither have you) but it's generally accepted that factcheck.org is a highly HIGHLY reputable source. They lean neither left nor right, nor up or down. They aren't funded by any outside sources or lobbyists (unlike many of our countries politicians). I'm honestly not going to sit around reading a 1000+ page bill that's going through congress (this is what we pay our state senators and representatives to do) and if you're telling me you really were going to read all of it, I'm sorry but I just don't believe you.

Seriously, go to the article, check out their sources. If they aren't reputable, come on here and explain why. They simply compiled the facts in a convenient and easy to access place. A TRUE no-spin zone, if you will. Don't go around ragging on people for not reading the bill when you yourself have not even gotten through it. "Do as I say not as I do" much?

You have no reason to argue the subject after admitting that you didn't read it, and that you will just take the word of someone else.

You should run for congress - they seem to do the same thing.

[PaidTimeOff]

Originally Posted by JBougie

You have no reason to argue the subject after admitting that you didn't read it, and that you will just take the word of someone else.

You should run for congress - they seem to do the same thing.

Did you read it? No. Are you still arguing about it? Yes. FFS stop being a hypocrite. I pay taxes as well as you (probably) do, so I can argue anything I want. And while we're on the subject, I didn't even argue this way or that. All I did was provide a RESOURCE, and you're getting all huffy and puffy because you think the resource doesn't support your (I guess we can assume FALSE) claims.

Well I've got news for you, that website is not affiliated with any side. They have proven this on multiple occasions by correcting falsehoods perpetrated by liberals, republicans, or any other political ideology that has established itself.

You're not getting anywhere by telling me I should run for congress in a snarky way. This is one step short of blatant name-calling. Grow up and stick to the issues.

[JBougie]

Originally Posted by PaidTimeOff

Did you read it? No. Are you still arguing about it? Yes. FFS stop being a hypocrite. I pay taxes as well as you (probably) do, so I can argue anything I want. And while we're on the subject, I didn't even argue this way or that. All I did was provide a RESOURCE, and you're getting all huffy and puffy because you think the resource doesn't support your (I guess we can assume FALSE) claims.

Well I've got news for you, that website is not affiliated with any side. They have proven this on multiple occasions by correcting falsehoods perpetrated by liberals, republicans, or any other political ideology that has established itself.

You're not getting anywhere by telling me I should run for congress in a snarky way. This is one step short of blatant name-calling. Grow up and stick to the issues.

1. I don't want it - I don't have to read anything to know I don't want it. I don't want it just simply because I will be forced to pay for it regardless if I use it or not. The only reason you SHOULD read it is if you're supporting it. Because you should know why you ARE supporting it and know that you're supporting it because it supports your ideals and you're beliefs. And you're right, I do pay taxes - $268 between federal and state per check alone, and that isn't including what my husband pays, I feel it and am reminded of it every week

2. I don't care who makes it - it doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't just roll over and believe what you hear. That's the point I'm making - politicians, no matter what side they are on will lie to you if need be. I'm not a republican, and I'm not a democrat and I don't really care for either party :)

3. It's not name calling. It's me being a sarcastic smart ass, which I have a habit of doing and not really meaning for it to be taken as deeply as it often it. So I apologize for that - while I did mean it to be a sarcastic comment I didn't mean for it to truly offend.