Rear strut tower bar problem

[mrbond]

Dude, chill out. It does stiffen the chassis because the rubber pieces are moved as to increase contact between the bar and the towers. See, this sort of bar gives the car a new point of weight transfer, thus reducing body roll. Also, when one side of the car goes over a bump, pothole, or the side of a race track, there's theoretically more controlability, which I've noticed when driving over potholes and flex joints on a turn on the freeway.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Originally Posted by mrbond

Dude, chill out. It does stiffen the chassis because the rubber pieces are moved as to increase contact between the bar and the towers. See, this sort of bar gives the car a new point of weight transfer, thus reducing body roll. Also, when one side of the car goes over a bump, pothole, or the side of a race track, there's theoretically more controlability, which I've noticed when driving over potholes and flex joints on a turn on the freeway.

Yeah, OK.

Why do you think race car cages are welded directly to the chassis. In fact, most race cars don't have rubber mounts of any kind. All flex points use hem joints because rubber or urethane bushings deflect and don't hold precision tuning. I've built race cars. I know what I'm talking about.

[botchilah]

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

Yeah, OK.

Why do you think race car cages are welded directly to the chassis. In fact, most race cars don't have rubber mounts of any kind. All flex points use hem joints because rubber or urethane bushings deflect and don't hold precision tuning. I've built race cars. I know what I'm talking about.

No one here contests your knowledge and experience.

But in the end, let the OP be.

If the guy's happy with his mod, whether it is quantified or purely subjective, all the better for him. No need to rain on his parade and try to assert your 'knowledge' and 'experience'. This thread wasn't about whether rear strutbars are useful / functional. The OP had them installed already and was trying to fix a vibration / noise problem.

[Bluevitz-rs]

No one here contests your knowledge and experience.

But in the end, let the OP be.

If the guy's happy with his mod, whether it is quantified or purely subjective, all the better for him. No need to rain on his parade and try to assert your 'knowledge' and 'experience'. This thread wasn't about whether rear strutbars are useful / functional. The OP had them installed already and was trying to fix a vibration / noise problem.

All I'm getting at is don't spread propaganda for other unknowledged readers on the subject.

And I wasn't directing my comments to anyone in particular, I was just trying to left facts be known. I've read too many thread about these types of bars and how they do SO much. I'm not flaming anyone for wasting their money, they car do whatever they want.

Originally Posted by mrbond

Dude, chill out. It does stiffen the chassis because the rubber pieces are moved as to increase contact between the bar and the towers. See, this sort of bar gives the car a new point of weight transfer, thus reducing body roll. Also, when one side of the car goes over a bump, pothole, or the side of a race track, there's theoretically more controlability, which I've noticed when driving over potholes and flex joints on a turn on the freeway.

[botchilah]

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

All I'm getting at is don't spread propaganda for other unknowledged readers on the subject.

Don't worry, Tamago already beat you (and probably everyone else) to that fact in this board :)

Chill

mrbond,

Doesn't the lack of rear cargo space bother you with the rear strut bar though? I want to get one myself (just for the heck of it and waste money lol) but I can't accept losing whatever is left of the rear luggage space.

Hmm in fact might as well get the HUGE rear brace that Garm sells for the Yaris right? The one that reaches all the way to the top lol I mean if you lose that space, everything on top is useless space since you can't properly load stuff from the back anymore right? Better check Garm's site again