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Old 09-22-2009, 10:14 PM   #1
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It really is around 20hp. OBDII reports just that on a live graph, tested it myself on the Yaris, and other cars, and the average was around 20hp for about any car I tested so far.

20hp is resonable, I mean its not like we are pressing down the gas pedal 100% to try and get up to 106crank horse power now are we?
no.

We probably use half the gas pedal, so the remaining power just goes to the a/c compressor. So the light foots don't feel it much, and the heavy feet people, will ALWAYS feel the difference in power. Plain and simple.

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No one take this the wrong way, I spoke to a few good friends of mine, and they told me whoever says the a/c compressor doesn't slow down the car, and that whoever says, the a/c compressor doesn't change numbers when running a dyno is a retard.
I happen to believe them, and Im sick of people trying to disagree with the TRUTH as if its something that makes them happy.

Now don't lash at me for being honest, because if you think of it, its ALL true.
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Old 09-23-2009, 01:26 AM   #2
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It really is around 20hp. OBDII reports just that on a live graph, tested it myself on the Yaris, and other cars, and the average was around 20hp for about any car I tested so far.

20hp is resonable, I mean its not like we are pressing down the gas pedal 100% to try and get up to 106crank horse power now are we?
no.

We probably use half the gas pedal, so the remaining power just goes to the a/c compressor. So the light foots don't feel it much, and the heavy feet people, will ALWAYS feel the difference in power. Plain and simple.

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No one take this the wrong way, I spoke to a few good friends of mine, and they told me whoever says the a/c compressor doesn't slow down the car, and that whoever says, the a/c compressor doesn't change numbers when running a dyno is a retard.
I happen to believe them, and Im sick of people trying to disagree with the TRUTH as if its something that makes them happy.

Now don't lash at me for being honest, because if you think of it, its ALL true.
ok well if you say you saw 20hp, I believe it... I am a heavy foot and I do notice the difference. It just seemed to me like 20hp is too much. Almost 1/5th of the total hp just seems like it would more noticeable at WOT then it is (to me any ways). I guess I should do some closer studies of it. I wish I could do a dyno run,this kind of thing is really interesting to me. If I could I'd dyno it before and after every performance mod (and once with the ac and without)
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:02 AM   #3
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It really is around 20hp. OBDII reports just that on a live graph, tested it myself on the Yaris, and other cars, and the average was around 20hp for about any car I tested so far.

20hp is resonable, I mean its not like we are pressing down the gas pedal 100% to try and get up to 106crank horse power now are we?
no.

We probably use half the gas pedal, so the remaining power just goes to the a/c compressor. So the light foots don't feel it much, and the heavy feet people, will ALWAYS feel the difference in power. Plain and simple.

Edit:
No one take this the wrong way, I spoke to a few good friends of mine, and they told me whoever says the a/c compressor doesn't slow down the car, and that whoever says, the a/c compressor doesn't change numbers when running a dyno is a retard.
I happen to believe them, and Im sick of people trying to disagree with the TRUTH as if its something that makes them happy.

Now don't lash at me for being honest, because if you think of it, its ALL true.
So this is where you went.

Going to say this once more. Dyno said 3 hp change.

I never said there wasn't a change.

We dynoed my friend's S2K on Monday. There was only a 5 hp difference at the top of the RPM range, which is probably just regular fluctuation. The car automatically turned off the AC after 7500 RPM. But everything below that 7500 RPM point took a hit. Nothing near 20%. I never disagreed with you that the AC robs power. I'm just disagreeing that it takes 20% away.

I said I didn't feel a difference. That doesn't mean there isn't one. The Yaris is so slow, it doesn't really matter to me.

If you're going to have a debate, please don't be lame and bring personal hits.

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Old 09-23-2009, 02:50 PM   #4
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