oil drain plug- gasket

[yaris-me]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

That's only a concern with the Fumoto

The Fram has no lever, it has the internal pressure seal that only gets activated when you screw on the drain hose during an oil change, plus it also has the redundant outer seal and screw on cap, and it's a lot smaller.

Most Fram SD p/n's @ amazon are less than $8.00, over $20.00 less than the Fumoto @ amazon

I believe ours is the SD-3 [M12x1.25], not a M14x1.50 as previously mentioned.

The valve can NOT accidentally open. You can open and close the valve to get samples. You can control a valve. You can not sample as easily with the Fram.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by yaris-me

The valve can NOT accidentally open. You can open and close the valve to get samples. You can control a valve. You can not sample as easily with the Fram.

Look above. The Fomoto is a much larger target, that's what I worry about, again, not too worried about the actual lever. Any large item like a board will knock that valve off, easily. I just worked on a Lexus that got its transmission dipstick cut in two, ruining the transmission, and it was hidden waaaay better than the exposed Fumoto valve. The Fram valve is a whole lot smaller target. And you can sample very easily with the Fram. Their drain hose threads on, so simply control how much you want to tighten, same as how much you want to pivot the Fumoto lever.

[yaris-me]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Look above. The Fomoto is a much larger target, that's what I worry about, again, not too worried about the actual lever. Any large item like a board will knock that valve off, easily. I just worked on a Lexus that got its transmission dipstick cut in two, ruining the transmission, and it was hidden waaaay better than the exposed Fumoto valve. The Fram valve is a whole lot smaller target. And you can sample very easily with the Fram. Their drain hose threads on, so simply control how much you want to tighten, same as how much you want to pivot the Fumoto lever.

Obviously you want a Fram. So why not, just buy it. You won't be happy otherwise.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by yaris-me

Obviously you want a Fram. So why not, just buy it. You won't be happy otherwise.

No, I want the one that will be least likely to cause me headaches and looks the least like a sore thumb...just sorry that Fram looks like the smarter choice for me [and I'm not the only one], and even worse that it's only $8.00 at amazon, but the Fomoto does have the much more exotic sounding name.