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bulldogs2k · 07-13-2006, 02:24 PM

civics have luxury features...imo. its safe to say the trend has started and is moving towards the right direction.

TrancosRt · 07-13-2006, 04:01 PM

I was looking at the European version of the Yaris. Great stuff really!! DVD Navigation systems, keyless ignition (Prius style: a big START button with a fob key in your pocket) and a lot of goodies. i think the small car trend will pickup in the US, specially if manufacturers bring the cars they already have designed to the US (like the VW Fox. Similar to the Yaris in some ways actually)

ECHOKnight2000 · 07-13-2006, 04:36 PM

Going along with what you guys said, I assumed that non of the big three produce small cars...well guess again they do! Just not for the U.S. market, what a shame! They feel that SUV's and trucks will yield more profit margin, which is true cause that's they're cash flow, but shrinking.
Anyway they're too arrogant and dumb to send the cars they make for Europe or other places, abeit change it to meet U.S. regulations, you know what I mean? They actually make decent "small" cars for Europe, there loss, literally-and no Aveo is not that competent, although I read the 2007 is an "improvement" but fuel economy is still

for the segment. Enough of my rant.

TrancosRt · 07-13-2006, 06:49 PM

Ford has the Ford Fiesta, a smaller version of the Focus (at least, form what I can see of the latest iteration in Argentina, where I'm right now) which is really neat and they have the even smaller Ford Ka which is a really small commuter car, but is really neat. GM has pretty much everywhere the Chevrolet/Opel Corsa, a neat small car too, and it's readily available since they make it in Brazil :S.
If other european makers got in the US market you'll see a lot of awesome wars (Like the Peugeot 206/207 and even the smaller 106, several small Fiats, Renault Clios, and several other small cars that are really beautiful).
There are a lot of small, fuel efficient cars aroudn but makers jsut don't catter them to the American market. Actually there an European Yaris with 75hp, 1.3 Diesel yaris (or something along those lines) that whoops the American Yaris in the MPG department...

fnkngrv · 07-13-2006, 11:42 PM

Well I know that I am a late entry in this thread and if I had 4 hours I would reply to a buttload of comments made. I test drove the Fit for a full day to the tune of about 150 miles and hands down I love the Yaris. You can't truly compare them as people have said tho because I own an S Sedan and the Fit does not have a sedan counterpart. I am almost 6'3" and I feel a hell of a lot more comfy in my S than the fit. Of course the Fit has more cubic space anyway that the Y HB cause it really in all honesty is a shrunken mini van. As for it being a Gen 1 still well people are right...watch out I think when and if the do have a Gen 2 in the HB market, but who knows. They have built only 40,000 Fits for the US market and they are selling like the Yaris....as if gas will be 10.00 a gallon next week...but I don't care if the Fit got 60mpg...I will take my 40mpg Yaris hands down!

corey415 · 07-14-2006, 11:02 AM

The Fit does have a sedan counterpart; it's just not sold in NA. It's called the Fit Aria sedan, and it doesnt sell too well in Japan.

Moose · 07-14-2006, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corey415

The Fit does have a sedan counterpart; it's just not sold in NA. It's called the Fit Aria sedan, and it doesnt sell too well in Japan.

It's a great little car. I didn't know about any problems selling them, though.

TrancosRt · 07-14-2006, 11:50 PM

The Aria looks like a small Civic IMHO. I still don't like it though... Yaris HB <3!

stuffy · 07-15-2006, 12:36 AM

comparing fit to yaris is not quite fair as the fit is a fair chunk more expensive than the yaris, so really should be in a higer class of car, (i know we have been over this before)
the yaris's only real competition in the price range is the new accent, aveo/swift,
that being said, i think performance-wise i think the yaris IS comparable to the fit.

i read a comparison in popular mechanics of yaris sedan, versa, fit (and one other i can't think of) where they gave the yaris sedan a hard time, i can't figure out why because they noted that it was
1. quickest off the line
2. achieved the best mileage
3. was the least expensive while
4. being a solidly built quality product

??????not good enough for an economy car i guess

corey415 · 07-15-2006, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuffy

...
i read a comparison in popular mechanics of yaris sedan, versa, fit (and one other i can't think of) where they gave the yaris sedan a hard time, i can't figure out why because they noted that it was
1. quickest off the line
2. achieved the best mileage
3. was the least expensive while
4. being a solidly built quality product

??????not good enough for an economy car i guess

I have a copy of that article. The prices as tested for the Yaris actually was actually the highest of the four.

The main reason why they did not prefer the Yaris was because it was "honestly a little numb and boring".

They preferred the Fit and said "this car [Fit] has the best suspension tune, with taut handling, excellent steering feel and a firm but not jarring highway ride".

Based on the facts, the Yaris does have better acceleration and better fuel economy. But subjectively, they preferred the Fit.

Moose · 07-15-2006, 09:45 AM

Popular Mechanics looooooooooooooooves VTEC, and they are the scientific version of Maxim- they are all about image over substance. The Fit is an image car, thus by Popular Mechanics it is the winner.

Some may argue this point, but it's just an observation of mine over the years.

corey415 · 07-15-2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose

Popular Mechanics looooooooooooooooves VTEC, and they are the scientific version of Maxim- they are all about image over substance. The Fit is an image car, thus by Popular Mechanics it is the winner.

Some may argue this point, but it's just an observation of mine over the years.

Well lets see. PM prefers the Fit. So does Money magazine. And Car & Driver. And Motor Trend. Are they all about "image over substance"?

Moose · 07-15-2006, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corey415

Well lets see. PM prefers the Fit. So does Money magazine. And Car & Driver. And Motor Trend. Are they all about "image over substance"?

Don't get me started on Mustang Monthly, oops I mean Car and Driver and Motor Trend.

And Money magazine? Who cares? I'll read them for investment advice, but not car info.

And I'm sure that the Massachusetts Lesbian Journal or the Seattle Starbucks Sipper Daily may like the Fit, too, but that's not the point of my argument.

BTW: Just because it is a magazine does not mean that it is rock solid fact- it is an opinion, just like yours and mine.

Dylanby · 07-16-2006, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose

BTW: Just because it is a magazine does not mean that it is rock solid fact- it is an opinion, just like yours and mine.

I mod thee +5 insightful (slash obvious).

ECHOKnight2000 · 07-16-2006, 12:48 AM

Unfortuantly a lot of reviews of Yaris and cars in its class, they favor the other cars and "bash" the Yaris...I've only seen a very small amount of Yaris hatchback reviews but more of the sedan varient, I guess being in the U.S. they figure it is more relevant, also being the "higher" in choice of the two as far as function and features and price. I find it funny that a lot of reviewers gripe if a 12k economy car isn't "fast" but yet they still want fuel economy...they praise the Fit cause its the fastest, don't get me wrong that is legit, especially in the U.S. but for crying out loud its an ECONO car! Not a Ferrai ENZO (Or an ECHOKnight2000,

). I was telling my co-worker that a lot of reviewers probably more so U.S. than others bashed the ECHO, but yet a lot of owners (myself included) love theirs, so obviously reviewers know jack-generally speaking. My co-worker is in the market for a new car and he wants to go the route I did, buy a new car, especially a small fuel efficient car...he was thinking about the FIT. He didn't care for the Yaris but I told him that the FIT is a dated design and the Yaris hatch and FIT aren't too far a part as far as size (right???), I know the FIT is larger in interior volume right?
He said he might consider a used ECHO, so I let him test drive my baby, of course the head snapping, nose bleeding exceleration got to him

swng · 07-16-2006, 03:15 PM

Just interested to know whether the Fit's doors close with a confidence inspiring "clunk" sound.

fnkngrv · 07-16-2006, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swng

Just interested to know whether the Fit's doors close with a confidence inspiring "clunk" sound.

Not like the Y

swng · 07-16-2006, 10:59 PM

Thanks fnkngry. I knew it

.

07-13-2006, 04:36 PM	#3
ECHOKnight2000 Small Car Lover View User's Garage Drives: A Super Car Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota, US of A! Posts: 830	Going along with what you guys said, I assumed that non of the big three produce small cars...well guess again they do! Just not for the U.S. market, what a shame! They feel that SUV's and trucks will yield more profit margin, which is true cause that's they're cash flow, but shrinking. Anyway they're too arrogant and dumb to send the cars they make for Europe or other places, abeit change it to meet U.S. regulations, you know what I mean? They actually make decent "small" cars for Europe, there loss, literally-and no Aveo is not that competent, although I read the 2007 is an "improvement" but fuel economy is still for the segment. Enough of my rant. __________________ You may look good on the beach but in reality you're a pompus, egotistical jerk. "I was never on the beach with you..."and you never will.

07-13-2006, 11:42 PM	#5
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	Well I know that I am a late entry in this thread and if I had 4 hours I would reply to a buttload of comments made. I test drove the Fit for a full day to the tune of about 150 miles and hands down I love the Yaris. You can't truly compare them as people have said tho because I own an S Sedan and the Fit does not have a sedan counterpart. I am almost 6'3" and I feel a hell of a lot more comfy in my S than the fit. Of course the Fit has more cubic space anyway that the Y HB cause it really in all honesty is a shrunken mini van. As for it being a Gen 1 still well people are right...watch out I think when and if the do have a Gen 2 in the HB market, but who knows. They have built only 40,000 Fits for the US market and they are selling like the Yaris....as if gas will be 10.00 a gallon next week...but I don't care if the Fit got 60mpg...I will take my 40mpg Yaris hands down! __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

07-15-2006, 09:45 AM	#11
Moose Resident Redneck Drives: 07 Polar White Yaris Sedan 5M Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 265	Popular Mechanics looooooooooooooooves VTEC, and they are the scientific version of Maxim- they are all about image over substance. The Fit is an image car, thus by Popular Mechanics it is the winner. Some may argue this point, but it's just an observation of mine over the years. __________________ My other rides: 2003 Honda Civic LX Coupe 5M- S/C K24 w/ LSD coming soon! 1999 Honda Civic EX Coupe 5M w/ B18 powaa 1985 Toyota Celica GTS Coupe 5M- track whip http://www.importlounge.com

07-16-2006, 12:48 AM	#15
ECHOKnight2000 Small Car Lover View User's Garage Drives: A Super Car Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota, US of A! Posts: 830	Unfortuantly a lot of reviews of Yaris and cars in its class, they favor the other cars and "bash" the Yaris...I've only seen a very small amount of Yaris hatchback reviews but more of the sedan varient, I guess being in the U.S. they figure it is more relevant, also being the "higher" in choice of the two as far as function and features and price. I find it funny that a lot of reviewers gripe if a 12k economy car isn't "fast" but yet they still want fuel economy...they praise the Fit cause its the fastest, don't get me wrong that is legit, especially in the U.S. but for crying out loud its an ECONO car! Not a Ferrai ENZO (Or an ECHOKnight2000, ). I was telling my co-worker that a lot of reviewers probably more so U.S. than others bashed the ECHO, but yet a lot of owners (myself included) love theirs, so obviously reviewers know jack-generally speaking. My co-worker is in the market for a new car and he wants to go the route I did, buy a new car, especially a small fuel efficient car...he was thinking about the FIT. He didn't care for the Yaris but I told him that the FIT is a dated design and the Yaris hatch and FIT aren't too far a part as far as size (right???), I know the FIT is larger in interior volume right? He said he might consider a used ECHO, so I let him test drive my baby, of course the head snapping, nose bleeding exceleration got to him __________________ You may look good on the beach but in reality you're a pompus, egotistical jerk. "I was never on the beach with you..."and you never will.

07-16-2006, 10:59 PM	#18
swng Drives: 06 3-dr auto RS Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,051	Thanks fnkngry. I knew it.

07-13-2006, 02:24 PM	#1
bulldogs2k Drives: '00 s2000, 2007 yaris hatch Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Va Beach Posts: 124	civics have luxury features...imo. its safe to say the trend has started and is moving towards the right direction.

07-13-2006, 04:01 PM	#2
TrancosRt View User's Garage Drives: 07 Silver HB Yaris Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 289	I was looking at the European version of the Yaris. Great stuff really!! DVD Navigation systems, keyless ignition (Prius style: a big START button with a fob key in your pocket) and a lot of goodies. i think the small car trend will pickup in the US, specially if manufacturers bring the cars they already have designed to the US (like the VW Fox. Similar to the Yaris in some ways actually)

07-13-2006, 06:49 PM	#4
TrancosRt View User's Garage Drives: 07 Silver HB Yaris Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 289	Ford has the Ford Fiesta, a smaller version of the Focus (at least, form what I can see of the latest iteration in Argentina, where I'm right now) which is really neat and they have the even smaller Ford Ka which is a really small commuter car, but is really neat. GM has pretty much everywhere the Chevrolet/Opel Corsa, a neat small car too, and it's readily available since they make it in Brazil :S. If other european makers got in the US market you'll see a lot of awesome wars (Like the Peugeot 206/207 and even the smaller 106, several small Fiats, Renault Clios, and several other small cars that are really beautiful). There are a lot of small, fuel efficient cars aroudn but makers jsut don't catter them to the American market. Actually there an European Yaris with 75hp, 1.3 Diesel yaris (or something along those lines) that whoops the American Yaris in the MPG department...

07-14-2006, 11:02 AM	#6
corey415 Drives: 95 Integra Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Fran, CA Posts: 58	The Fit does have a sedan counterpart; it's just not sold in NA. It's called the Fit Aria sedan, and it doesnt sell too well in Japan.

07-14-2006, 11:50 PM	#8
TrancosRt View User's Garage Drives: 07 Silver HB Yaris Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 289	The Aria looks like a small Civic IMHO. I still don't like it though... Yaris HB <3!

07-15-2006, 12:36 AM	#9
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	comparing fit to yaris is not quite fair as the fit is a fair chunk more expensive than the yaris, so really should be in a higer class of car, (i know we have been over this before) the yaris's only real competition in the price range is the new accent, aveo/swift, that being said, i think performance-wise i think the yaris IS comparable to the fit. i read a comparison in popular mechanics of yaris sedan, versa, fit (and one other i can't think of) where they gave the yaris sedan a hard time, i can't figure out why because they noted that it was 1. quickest off the line 2. achieved the best mileage 3. was the least expensive while 4. being a solidly built quality product ??????not good enough for an economy car i guess

07-16-2006, 03:15 PM	#16
swng Drives: 06 3-dr auto RS Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,051	Just interested to know whether the Fit's doors close with a confidence inspiring "clunk" sound.

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