Broader unemployment measure at 17.5%

[Bob Dog]

Any one who is adamnantly sure of themself utterly lacks the depth of consideration necessary to have any truly meaningful insight into a problem.

[2+2]

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

Any one who is as adamnantly sure of themself utterly lacks the depth of consideration necessary to have any truly meaningful insight into a problem.

You think anyone has time to listen to someone who has thought the problems through and can offer contemplative insight into the problem from various angles while holding a rearview mirror to history in case it's repeating or echoing itself at the moment?

Naw man, Glenn Beck is in charge. Sloganeering and lowest common denominator populist drivel rule the day. Sit back and enjoy a piece of history being made. At least people like you and I will gain an understanding of how easy it was to incite the masses during a few other unfortunate chapters in human history.

Government is bad. Government is too big. Government tries to run our lives. Government officials are overpaid. Taxes are too high. Your ideas are too socialist/capitalist/elitist/liberal/conversative (whatever suits the day).

I've never seen anything like this. People talking like if only we had no government everything would be alright. The name for that is anarchy and anarchy is as far from alright as you can get.

One last thing. Some people lately are citing recent government failures as proof that government is the problem and not the solution. We're coming off of 28 years of deregulation and the castrating of every government agency that could have helped us avoid the great recession. You can't cut funding for something and then use the reduced capability of that entity as an argument for further cuts in funding. It's a "strange loop". It's illogical. It's populist drivel.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

Any one who is adamnantly sure of themself utterly lacks the depth of consideration necessary to have any truly meaningful insight into a problem.

Exactly! And that is why we need to get these people out. They are so assured they are right that God Himself probably couldn't convince them they could be wrong.

Originally Posted by 2+2

You think anyone has time to listen to someone who has thought the problems through and can offer contemplative insight into the problem from various angles while holding a rearview mirror to history in case it's repeating or echoing itself at the moment?

Naw man, Glenn Beck is in charge. Sloganeering and lowest common denominator populist drivel rule the day. Sit back and enjoy a piece of history being made. At least people like you and I will gain an understanding of how easy it was to incite the masses during a few other unfortunate chapters in human history.
I've never seen anything like this. People talking like if only we had no government everything would be alright. The name for that is anarchy and anarchy is as far from alright as you can get.

One last thing. Some people lately are citing recent government failures as proof that government is the problem and not the solution. We're coming off of 28 years of deregulation and the castrating of every government agency that could have helped us avoid the great recession. You can't cut funding for something and then use the reduced capability of that entity as an argument for further cuts in funding. It's a "strange loop". It's illogical. It's populist drivel.

Show me anyone in congress willing to listen. Of course there aren't any. They don't listen to anyone, except the people who are funding their campaigns, and those people have such a blatant socialist agenda it should be obvious to anyone. That is not how our government is suppose to work.

You think Glenn Beck is populist? Try Obama, he did it so well he didn't have to tell anyone anything. The entire left wing movement is all about convincing people to do anything without saying what they really want them to do.

Anarchy is bad. However government is evil. It cannot be anything but evil. Our founding fathers knew this, and anyone who takes a good look at history should figure that out as well. Government cannot solve anything.

Castrating the government!!! I wish. Every year the budget grows exponentially. I don't see any castration going on, just massive Jabba the Hutt style growth. No government agency could've helped us avoid the coming depression. They could've and should've cut them all and cut the rules and regulations that make zero common sense. Less government will grow the economy, more will always destroy it.

When the Budget gets back to under $1 trillion, then we can think about calling it castration. Until then, using such language is a joke.

No large high tax government has ever stood the test of time. Nor will it.