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raz0rbladez909 · 12-10-2006, 05:52 PM

half of the parts they have listed are just generic stuff, through many parts manufacturers who don't even have our vehicles as being listed for parts through them, i.e. DC sports being at least one of the few i don't have the mag next to me but it seemed as though they just pulled up a picture of that brands parts and said they made parts for the yaris, i want proof that DC sports is actually making a header and exhaust system for our cars.

ChinoCharles · 12-10-2006, 09:27 PM

About three-quarters through the mag. They are really hard on the Yaris. They are really... well, lets just say the editors at Siphon and the marketing team at Honda probably get along really, really well.

Someone please explain why every single writer has said the Fit is a more capable B segment platform, when the Yaris is as fast if not faster than the Fit by the numbers and on the street.

I'm OK with it... I enjoy owning the underdog in this fight. I'm just wondering.

raz0rbladez909 · 12-11-2006, 08:56 PM

its because Honda has always had a bigger following then Toyota when it comes to the sport compact segment, so when a new Honda comes out of course they're going to support it over the opposition, and from some of the things i have heard already they have already swapped k series motors into the Fit making it more capable of stomping on the Yaris where we have nothing but overpriced superchargers and barely enough engine bay space for a 1.8 2zzge let alone a 2.0 like them. i wouldn't worry about it i prefer having two doors and better gas mileage than a mini minivan looking car anyday of the week. just my .02

acrbill · 12-11-2006, 09:30 PM

I noticed that too. Seems like they are going to alienate the rest of the sub compacts and hold the Fit high on the pedestal. The trouble with the Fit is that it looks line a miniature Honda Odyssey. Magazines are ruled by sponsors. If the Yaris owners are mod crazy then it stands to reason that the sponsors will push for more Yaris coverage.

The Fit is quite the looker........

ChinoCharles · 12-11-2006, 10:37 PM

I know, its disgusting.

And a Fit with a K20 is not a Fit! Thats like saying the Yaris has tuning potential because you can strap a jet engine in the hatch... if it doesn't have the original engine, it is no longer the original vehicle! I don't care if it bolts up, and from what I've read even that K20 swap requires some modification.

Bottom line... the Yaris comes from the factory faster, lighter and sexier than the fit. They can keep their H badge. I'll take practicality and potential over the name any day of the week.

BMGYaris · 12-11-2006, 11:12 PM

i thought the fit had significant advantages in curvy roads and slalom courses and such? and if that is true i have to say going from an additional second automatic time and an additional .5 seconds, in a car that already does about 10 seconds....seems like handling is way more important. I mean honestly guys, if you are talking about a car that does 0-60 in 6 seconds and one that does it in 7 seconds thats a big difference, but when you are already starting out with 11 and it moves up to 12...well, they are both slugs...or go from 9 to 9.5 with a manual...well, it seems that with a car already THAT slow and has such low power then handling and stability are going to be the key to enjoying the ride. So if the fit far exceeds yaris in handling on slalom courses and such, then its going to be alot more sporty, just because they are both so fking slow.

Russelt3hPirate · 12-12-2006, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

I know, its disgusting.

And a Fit with a K20 is not a Fit! Thats like saying the Yaris has tuning potential because you can strap a jet engine in the hatch... if it doesn't have the original engine, it is no longer the original vehicle! I don't care if it bolts up, and from what I've read even that K20 swap requires some modification.

Bottom line... the Yaris comes from the factory faster, lighter and sexier than the fit. They can keep their H badge. I'll take practicality and potential over the name any day of the week.

that's a pretty shitty argument when you're talking potential.

swapping motors has been part of the car world forever.

hell look at the subaru world, a 93 Impreza L wagon has alot of potential b/c you can drop in a JDM drivetrain with the only real issue being wiring.

either way, My girlfriend wanted a yaris b/c the fit looks like ass and is overpriced for what you get.

now it's time to build an echo motor and slap a blitz supercharger on it ;)

and go out and beat up on some fits.

Tamago · 12-14-2006, 01:43 PM

the yaris will beat up on the fit stock for stock anyway

Russelt3hPirate · 12-14-2006, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

the yaris will beat up on the fit stock for stock anyway

i was talking about a turbo k20 fit!

ChinoCharles · 12-14-2006, 03:01 PM

Okay well my Yaris will beat your turbo K20 fit because I'm going to put a plutonium core in there! And 16 turbos!

Russelt3hPirate · 12-14-2006, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Okay well my Yaris will beat your turbo K20 fit because I'm going to put a plutonium core in there! And 16 turbos!

i don't have a k20 fit.

i want to build a supercharged yaris to beat up on the k20 fits :)

ChinoCharles · 12-15-2006, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by echo_hrs

I bought the Yaris because of my personal liking of the design, and mod potential...

I could care less if every writer on the planet pans it...And if every Import Tuner/V8 Driver/Pickup owner on the street thinks it's a silly car to modify...

Writers will say the Kia Rio beats the Yaris due to heated seats in Canada...I could care less...

If I made my purchase decision based on what auto-writers are saying, then I would be driving a Civic Si...

Cheers

+1

keesue · 12-16-2006, 11:34 PM

[QUOTE=echo_hrs;42106]I bought the Yaris because of my personal liking of the design, and mod potential...

I could care less if every writer on the planet pans it...And if every Import Tuner/V8 Driver/Pickup owner on the street thinks it's a silly car to modify...

Writers will say the Kia Rio beats the Yaris due to heated seats in Canada...I could care less...

If I made my purchase decision based on what auto-writers are saying, then I would be driving a Civic Si...

Cheers[/QUOTE

you said that right, dude...

eTiMaGo · 01-24-2007, 02:16 AM

Finally managed to find this magazine in a bookstore here!

I have to say it's a step in the right direction, they have some decent information in there.

Any sign of a new issue?

magoo_lc1 · 01-29-2007, 12:42 PM

I bought this when it first came out. I am intersted in all the cars they have in there for my next purchase. The yaris is on my list. I do like that there will be a supercharger for it soon to. Im torn between the yaris,fit, and xa,xb.

magoo_lc1 · 01-29-2007, 12:51 PM

I just read all the posts. You guys make a good arguement for the yaris. I like the underdog myself. If i buy one it will not be to make it a racecar, i want a very reliable dd. I have driven the fit and it does seem to handle a bit better, but i liike the way the yaris looks and feels and i can fix the susp to make it run circles around a fit. I was a toyota guy long before a honda guy. At least there is a aftermarket, I bought a tercel new in 95 with the blackhawk package, that car was tough to even find lowering springs at the time, but i looved it.

Dont forget guys,,in the end you have a toyota, a rock solid reliable car that holds its value fantasticly.

Fit_N_In · 04-03-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrbill

I noticed that too. Seems like they are going to alienate the rest of the sub compacts and hold the Fit high on the pedestal. The trouble with the Fit is that it looks line a miniature Honda Odyssey. Magazines are ruled by sponsors. If the Yaris owners are mod crazy then it stands to reason that the sponsors will push for more Yaris coverage.

The Fit is quite the looker........

Ok, to be fair, let's not pit a modded Yaris against a stock Fit. They both have their merits, but neither looks nearly as good in stock form. Let's bring some levity to the argument. ;)

btw, this is not MY car.

*Chris07LB* · 04-03-2007, 09:20 PM

Id take a FIT anyday over the Yaris, but as it is now, Im the only one who drives/sits in my car... its a work commuter. So the extra "space" of a FIT wouldnt make sence for me, but damn I like 'em.

12-11-2006, 09:30 PM	#22
acrbill Drives: Polar White Hatch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 407	I noticed that too. Seems like they are going to alienate the rest of the sub compacts and hold the Fit high on the pedestal. The trouble with the Fit is that it looks line a miniature Honda Odyssey. Magazines are ruled by sponsors. If the Yaris owners are mod crazy then it stands to reason that the sponsors will push for more Yaris coverage. The Fit is quite the looker........ __________________ ChinoCharles Intake supporter.

12-16-2006, 11:34 PM	#31
keesue Chillin' out by the Bay Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The back streets of San Fran Posts: 151	[QUOTE=echo_hrs;42106]I bought the Yaris because of my personal liking of the design, and mod potential... I could care less if every writer on the planet pans it...And if every Import Tuner/V8 Driver/Pickup owner on the street thinks it's a silly car to modify... Writers will say the Kia Rio beats the Yaris due to heated seats in Canada...I could care less... If I made my purchase decision based on what auto-writers are saying, then I would be driving a Civic Si... Cheers[/QUOTE you said that right, dude... __________________ Gettin' all the way down. Meteorite '07 HB STILL completely stock; but.... checkin' out da other ones to see what's what.

01-24-2007, 02:16 AM	#32
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	Finally managed to find this magazine in a bookstore here! I have to say it's a step in the right direction, they have some decent information in there. Any sign of a new issue? __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

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12-10-2006, 05:52 PM	#19
raz0rbladez909 Drives: 3 door yaris Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 17	half of the parts they have listed are just generic stuff, through many parts manufacturers who don't even have our vehicles as being listed for parts through them, i.e. DC sports being at least one of the few i don't have the mag next to me but it seemed as though they just pulled up a picture of that brands parts and said they made parts for the yaris, i want proof that DC sports is actually making a header and exhaust system for our cars.

12-10-2006, 09:27 PM	#20
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	About three-quarters through the mag. They are really hard on the Yaris. They are really... well, lets just say the editors at Siphon and the marketing team at Honda probably get along really, really well. Someone please explain why every single writer has said the Fit is a more capable B segment platform, when the Yaris is as fast if not faster than the Fit by the numbers and on the street. I'm OK with it... I enjoy owning the underdog in this fight. I'm just wondering.

12-11-2006, 08:56 PM	#21
raz0rbladez909 Drives: 3 door yaris Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 17	its because Honda has always had a bigger following then Toyota when it comes to the sport compact segment, so when a new Honda comes out of course they're going to support it over the opposition, and from some of the things i have heard already they have already swapped k series motors into the Fit making it more capable of stomping on the Yaris where we have nothing but overpriced superchargers and barely enough engine bay space for a 1.8 2zzge let alone a 2.0 like them. i wouldn't worry about it i prefer having two doors and better gas mileage than a mini minivan looking car anyday of the week. just my .02

12-11-2006, 10:37 PM	#23
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	I know, its disgusting. And a Fit with a K20 is not a Fit! Thats like saying the Yaris has tuning potential because you can strap a jet engine in the hatch... if it doesn't have the original engine, it is no longer the original vehicle! I don't care if it bolts up, and from what I've read even that K20 swap requires some modification. Bottom line... the Yaris comes from the factory faster, lighter and sexier than the fit. They can keep their H badge. I'll take practicality and potential over the name any day of the week.

12-11-2006, 11:12 PM	#24
BMGYaris Drives: Yaris 3dr Hatchback Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 255	i thought the fit had significant advantages in curvy roads and slalom courses and such? and if that is true i have to say going from an additional second automatic time and an additional .5 seconds, in a car that already does about 10 seconds....seems like handling is way more important. I mean honestly guys, if you are talking about a car that does 0-60 in 6 seconds and one that does it in 7 seconds thats a big difference, but when you are already starting out with 11 and it moves up to 12...well, they are both slugs...or go from 9 to 9.5 with a manual...well, it seems that with a car already THAT slow and has such low power then handling and stability are going to be the key to enjoying the ride. So if the fit far exceeds yaris in handling on slalom courses and such, then its going to be alot more sporty, just because they are both so fking slow.

12-14-2006, 01:43 PM	#26
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	the yaris will beat up on the fit stock for stock anyway

12-14-2006, 03:01 PM	#28
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Okay well my Yaris will beat your turbo K20 fit because I'm going to put a plutonium core in there! And 16 turbos!

01-29-2007, 12:42 PM	#33
magoo_lc1 Drives: honda civic hatch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: missouri Posts: 144	I bought this when it first came out. I am intersted in all the cars they have in there for my next purchase. The yaris is on my list. I do like that there will be a supercharger for it soon to. Im torn between the yaris,fit, and xa,xb.

01-29-2007, 12:51 PM	#34
magoo_lc1 Drives: honda civic hatch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: missouri Posts: 144	I just read all the posts. You guys make a good arguement for the yaris. I like the underdog myself. If i buy one it will not be to make it a racecar, i want a very reliable dd. I have driven the fit and it does seem to handle a bit better, but i liike the way the yaris looks and feels and i can fix the susp to make it run circles around a fit. I was a toyota guy long before a honda guy. At least there is a aftermarket, I bought a tercel new in 95 with the blackhawk package, that car was tough to even find lowering springs at the time, but i looved it. Dont forget guys,,in the end you have a toyota, a rock solid reliable car that holds its value fantasticly.

04-03-2007, 09:20 PM	#36
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	Id take a FIT anyday over the Yaris, but as it is now, Im the only one who drives/sits in my car... its a work commuter. So the extra "space" of a FIT wouldnt make sence for me, but damn I like 'em.