Toyota Recalls

[eric81]

Great news... the fix is out and we have fixed all the vehicles on our lot. We can now sell all vehicles. The Prius glitch is kinda funny, because it isn't as much of a glitch as it is just the electric motor taking a second to pull electricity back to the battery. The brakes work fine, and even last a lot longer than they should. Several cab coimpanies in New York are actually complaining that there is something wrong with their cabs, because at 90K miles in a cab in New York, the brakes still don't need to be replaced. Of course, if you use synthetic in a Prius, the oil doesn't need to be changed until 10K miles. These people that are having issues really need to research their vehicles before they go to the news. It would be like saying "Theres something wrong with my Prius, because the engine just shuts off while I drive down the road, but it keeps on moving foreward. And then, the engine just kicks back on all by itself... IT'S TRYING TO KILL ME!!!" Or the guy we had come in and said the Prius won't come to a complete stop... even though it was at a complete stop. The tires on the computer were still moving, so he kept pushing on the brakes harder and harder. It was funny enough that all of us here explained it several times, and he still wouldn't listen, so we just laughed at how stupid he was.

[yaris2010RS]

i hate to add fuel here but if anyone is interested, check out this video. this is of my own yaris which appears to have an issue.....

http://www.youtube.com/user/jeffisthebest21

[eric81]

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

i hate to add fuel here but if anyone is interested, check out this video. this is of my own yaris which appears to have an issue.....

http://www.youtube.com/user/jeffisthebest21

That is not a stock floor mat, and that dealership needs to be talked to (seriously) about putting those floor mats in ANY car. That is why Toyota is having o many issues right now. They probably got some sweet deal on those mat, and that is why they are in there. The stock ones look MUCH different. I will post a pic of one if I can find one (hard to find after recall)

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Originally Posted by eric81

That is not a stock floor mat, and that dealership needs to be talked to (seriously) about putting those floor mats in ANY car. That is why Toyota is having o many issues right now. They probably got some sweet deal on those mat, and that is why they are in there. The stock ones look MUCH different. I will post a pic of one if I can find one (hard to find after recall)

that is just a crappy WalMart mat with the dealership name on it !!!!
yes that dealership should be raked over the coals !!!


[either get a WeatherTech digital fit, or go home.]

[thebarber]

I don't think people are gunning for them. They screwed up big time and several people have died or been injured as a result. I've always thought Toyota would have similar issues to other manufactures when they got as big as GM/Ford.

Don't be such a Toyota fan boy. They've know about this problem for years and have done everything in their power to cover it up including buying off government employees.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyot...tory?id=9747342
But internal government memos and court testimony analyzed by ABC News show the federal investigations were extremely limited in scope, after negotiations involving former safety investigators who had been recruited to work for Toyota's Washington, D.C. office.

Wow, the CEO came out an apologized after he couldn't cover it up any longer. What a nice guy.

cover-up?

[RedRide]

Yeah, Toyota will bounce back after all all the smoke clears.

People generally realize that all car maufacutures have troubles on ocasion.Toyota is just way overdue.

Perhaps in the long run, this is a good thing in a way as it wiil make auto manufactures more aware of the hazzards of jumping head long into new technology without more thorough testing.

Yes, I know they test everything now but, they still want to hit the market with something new before the compitition.

I can hear now in board rooms: "Let's test it some more so we don't pull a Toyota".

[MadMax]

Toyota's once-golden resale value gets dented

CHICAGO – Toyota owners looking to trade in their cars have little reason to sing the carmaker's old ad slogan, "I love what you do for me — Toyota!"

Recalls and a bungled response to safety questions are putting a dent in the resale values of their cars. For years, Toyotas have been praised both for high quality and maintaining their worth. These days, the Toyota in your garage is no longer like money in the bank.

Some dealers are refusing to accept Toyotas for trade, while others are paying considerably less than they did just two week ago. Kelley Blue Book has dropped the value of recalled Toyotas by as much 3 percent. The auto research Web site Edmunds.com estimates resale or trade-in values could fall up to 10 percent in the short term.

The decline will likely continue as long as uncertainty and defects continue to shadow the world's No. 1 carmaker.

Toyota Motor Corp. has so far recalled more than 7 million cars in the U.S., Europe and China over a sticky accelerator and floor mats that can get caught in the gas pedal. Its prized Prius hybrid — which is partially powered by electricity — is under investigation for momentary brake failure. The company is expected to announce its plan for fixing that model this week.

Kelley, which two months ago named Toyota the best brand for resale value, says recalled models are now worth $200 to $500 less per car. Another cut of the same magnitude is planned as soon as the coming week unless the recall controversy abates and demand for Toyotas stops declining, Kelley spokeswoman Robyn Eckard says.

Similarly, since the first recall for sticky accelerator pedals on Jan. 21, Edmunds' estimate for the trade-in value of a 2009 Toyota Camry has fallen by 4 percent to 6 percent to $13,967 while the 2009 Toyota Corolla has declined 6 percent to $11,233.

"My advice to a consumer would be 'If you don't have to trade one in, wait,'" says Michelle Krebs, senior analyst for Edmunds. "Values will stay down for a bit. But Toyota's got really strong brand equity."

The news has unnerved more than a few consumers who had viewed Toyota as a bulletproof brand for quality.

Laura Benin, 34, of New York City chose a 2009 Corolla for her first car purchase a year ago because of Toyota's stellar reputation. Now she's reluctant to drive her car even after the potential acceleration problem is fixed, but knows this is a bad time to try to sell it.

"It's a little bit scary to think the car with the greatest reputation for safety is in the situation it's in now," she says.

Those who are anxious to sell without waiting for a value rebound can turn to the Japanese automaker's rivals. GM, Ford and Chrysler all have announced similar programs that involve offering $1,000 in incentives to Toyota owners who buy their vehicles.

Car dealers are also facing uncertainty.

At River Oaks Chrysler-Jeep in Houston, general manager Alan Helfman told his used car manager to knock 30 to 40 percent of the book value off any recalled Toyotas or Prius hybrids traded in.

"You've got to get them fixed," he said. "You've got to take them in at greatly reduced value."

Chuck Eddy, a Chrysler dealer in Youngstown, Ohio, said he's heard of other dealers refusing to take recalled Toyotas in trade, but said he'll still take them at reduced values.

Two auction houses, where dealers sell trade-ins if they decide not to keep them, have told his dealership that they won't take recalled Toyotas due to legal liability fears. Eddy says customers are nervous about buying Toyotas and the auction houses have further limited his resale options.

Despite the problems, many drivers appear to be sticking with the brand, however uneasily. Leasetrader.com, which acts as matchmaker between buyers and sellers of car leases, says that of several thousand people on a waiting list to take over Toyota leases, fewer than 30 have canceled.

American drivers pushed Toyota's reputation to an unrealistically high level and now a natural adjustment will occur that benefits Ford and General Motors, says John Wolkonowicz, a senior auto analyst for North America at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Mass.

"I don't think Toyotas are going to suddenly become undesirable on the used car market," he says. "It's just that they have been taken down from this lofty position that they couldn't possibly live up to forever."

Jack Fitzgerald, who owns 12 dealerships including two Toyota stores in the Washington, D.C., area, said he would buy every used Toyota he can get because he's confident they will retain their value.

Fitzgerald said the recall concerns are overblown and should pass quickly once Toyota gets the repair parts to dealers.

"I'm buying every one I can get," he said. "I can't wait for the village idiot to dump his Toyota for nothing. I can certainly make money on it."

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Associated Press Writer Tom Krisher in Detroit contributed to this report.

[slothman86]

"I'm buying every one I can get," he said. "I can't wait for the village idiot to dump his Toyota for nothing. I can certainly make money on it."

LMAO!

[yannis-b]

Luckily my car is not affected as it was manufactured after September 09 (there's a look up system on toyota.co.uk). The thing is the media present it as a disaster etc, whereas as mentioned above it didn't even make it to the top-10 of recalls. As for the drop in trade-in prices it's expectable but hey thanks I'll keep my car...

[Cutie Pie #2]

To add more fuel to the fire: Problems with steering now!
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/co...into/19351106/

[b_hickman11]

Honda added another recall today. Looks like they were getting jealous of all attention Toyota was getting and they are trying to steal some of the pub.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/09/auto...dex.htm?hpt=T2

[why?]

at this point i think toyota is making every recall it can think of, figuring it can't hurt their rep any more.

[Astroman]

Still wouldn't buy a chrysler or GM if you paid me.

[eht13]

OK, I think it's safe to start calling bullshit on some of these complaints... like people are sitting around thinking of things that could be wrong with Toyotas, and because of the situation everyone takes it seriously. The government and the media are doing nothing to alleviate concerns, and may actually be contributing to them.

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Originally Posted by eht13

OK, I think it's safe to start calling bullshit on some of these complaints... like people are sitting around thinking of things that could be wrong with Toyotas, and because of the situation everyone takes it seriously. The government and the media are doing nothing to alleviate concerns, and may actually be contributing to them.

yup

[1NZYaris1]

look on the bright side at least Toyota does the recall when the cars are new ..
Unlike Honda's latest recall on 450,000 cars dateing back to 2001
for fualty airbags

[*MAD DOG*]

Toyota has finally recalled the Prius here in Australia.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news...l/1746793.aspx

[marcus]

*** another update...yesterdays news toronto. heard it on a radio.

some ex employee also revealed a previous toyota cover up on recalls.. this is just killing the TOYOTA reputation.. hope this is a hoax...