2007 AT Yaris Disappoints me

[b_hickman11]

I can get 36-44 mpg without any hypermiling tech. so it is realistic to get above EPA with no effort.

[Loren]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

I can get 36-44 mpg without any hypermiling tech. so it is realistic to get above EPA with no effort.

I'd venture to guess that traffic conditions where you live are pretty relaxed.

The problem comes with people who live in larger cities. They think they're driving conservatively because they're not being "agressive" and passing a bunch of cars, they're just "going with the flow" and "keeping up with traffic". But, 95% of everyone in the city doesn't drive conservatively at all. If you're keeping up with them, you aren't, either!

Then there are the tailgating habits the so many people have, but don't even realize that they have. If there is less than 2 seconds between you and the car ahead of you, you're wasting fuel because every time they slow down, YOU have to hit the brakes. If you follow 2-3 seconds back, you can drive your own game and instead of having to hit the brakes, you can get a free DFCO coast!

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by Loren

I'd venture to guess that traffic conditions where you live are pretty relaxed.

The problem comes with people who live in larger cities. They think they're driving conservatively because they're not being "agressive" and passing a bunch of cars, they're just "going with the flow" and "keeping up with traffic". But, 95% of everyone in the city doesn't drive conservatively at all. If you're keeping up with them, you aren't, either!

Then there are the tailgating habits the so many people have, but don't even realize that they have. If there is less than 2 seconds between you and the car ahead of you, you're wasting fuel because every time they slow down, YOU have to hit the brakes. If you follow 2-3 seconds back, you can drive your own game and instead of having to hit the brakes, you can get a free DFCO coast!

So you are saying that people who drive safe and follow the law is the same thing as hypermiling?

[Loren]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

So you are saying that people who drive safe and follow the law is the same thing as hypermiling?

The similarities are striking, really.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by Loren

The similarities are striking, really.

Sorry....not even close.

hypermiling vs normal driver

50 psi vs. 32 psi
turning off the engine at red lights vs not doing it
taking out seats, spare tire, jack vs not doing it
not using ac when it's 100+ outside vs using the ac
driving 15 miles below speed limit vs driving the speed limit

Very different........

[Loren]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Sorry....not even close.

hypermiling vs normal driver

50 psi vs. 32 psi
turning off the engine at red lights vs not doing it
taking out seats, spare tire, jack vs not doing it
not using ac when it's 100+ outside vs using the ac
driving 15 miles below speed limit vs driving the speed limit

Very different........

Now, there are varying degrees of hypermiling. What *I* do does not involve hyper-inflating tires, turning off the engine at stop lights, removing any weight that I didn't already remove for autocross purposes, not using the AC when it's hot, or driving more than 5 mph below the speed limit.

In fact, I normally drive 5 mph OVER the speed limit, I just take my time getting up to that speed.

I really think that you are as much or more of a hypermiler as I am, you just don't want to associate yourself with the hardcore hypermilers. (not that I really blame you)

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by Loren

Now, there are varying degrees of hypermiling. What *I* do does not involve hyper-inflating tires, turning off the engine at stop lights, removing any weight that I didn't already remove for autocross purposes, not using the AC when it's hot, or driving more than 5 mph below the speed limit.

In fact, I normally drive 5 mph OVER the speed limit, I just take my time getting up to that speed.

I really think that you are as much or more of a hypermiler as I am, you just don't want to associate yourself with the hardcore hypermilers. (not that I really blame you)

So now taking your time to get up to speed makes you a hypermiler?