3/gallon gas comming soon

[Black Yaris]

well what I am saying is spread things out, they could raise taxes on petrol slightly as well as increase the "gas guzzler tax" on new cars, valorium tax, larger fees on automotive related items.

Kinda like what they did with tobacco products, it will price people out of cars that consume a lot of petrol. Those who can afford them will, and those who can not will be forced to conserve or learn to live w/o a car

[darthbauer]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

well what I am saying is spread things out, they could raise taxes on petrol slightly as well as increase the "gas guzzler tax" on new cars, valorium tax, larger fees on automotive related items.

Kinda like what they did with tobacco products, it will price people out of cars that consume a lot of petrol. Those who can afford them will, and those who can not will be forced to conserve or learn to live w/o a car

I don't drive a gas guzzler and I already think that the gas guzzler tax is to high. A friend of mine has an 08 GT500 and to renew his registration was over 1600 bucks. I'm sorry but that is a bit of a joke.

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by darthbauer

I don't drive a gas guzzler and I already think that the gas guzzler tax is to high. A friend of mine has an 08 GT500 and to renew his registration was over 1600 bucks. I'm sorry but that is a bit of a joke.

if he can not afford the $1600, he should have not bought the car. That is why our housing market is shit, people can't afford what they own.

If people lived with in their means it would not be a problem.

We do not buy anything we could not pay cash for, with the exception of our house. But we chose a house where our payment is half of what we were approved for and over pay on our mortgage payments.

[darthbauer]

He could afford it but he said it wasn't worth it and drained all the fluids out of it and put it in storage.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

If people lived with in their means it would not be a problem.

So as long as you can afford to buy and waste limited resources, spewing the waste gases out into the atmosphere we all depend upon, then it's OK. As long as you have the money to do it, that is? As long as you are living "within your means".

Just wondering.

-Steve

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by darthbauer

He could afford it but he said it wasn't worth it and drained all the fluids out of it and put it in storage.

that is his fault for buying, if he really could afford it he would just pay it

Originally Posted by sbergman27

So as long as you can afford to buy and waste limited resources, spewing the waste gases out into the atmosphere we all depend upon, then it's OK. As long as you have the money to do it, that is? As long as you are living "within your means".

Just wondering.

-Steve

I some what agree, there are going to be a lot less people that can actually afford it. It is going to price out a lot of people and force them the conserve. Vehicles that consume a large amount of gas are a luxury.

the people that will not be able to afford it are going to out weigh those who can, because this is America.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

I some what agree, there are going to be a lot less people that can actually afford it. It is going to price out a lot of people and force them the conserve. Vehicles that consume a large amount of gas are a luxury.

So you have no ethical problem with acting unethically, as long as you can afford it?

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

So you have no ethical problem with acting unethically, as long as you can afford it?

If you know the consequences of your actions, and willing to pay for them.
Obviously this does not pertain to everything, I do not condone shooting someone in the face if you are willing to spend life in prison.
On the other hand, I parked illegally on some landscaping because I could not find a spot to park in, I was willing to pay the cost of a ticket to have lunch with my wife; I got a ticket and I had to pay for it.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

Kinda like what they did with tobacco products, it will price people out of cars that consume a lot of petrol.

I've not noticed any sort of spread out taxation driving many people from their nicotine addiction. Although they do tend to waste more of the time of the people in line behind them, debating whether to go with a generic brand or not. But the addicts just pay the extra taxes.

Ostracization seems to have had limited effect effect, as well. They happily stand out in the 20 degree cold, moaning with their fellows about how *cold* it is outside, railing at the unfairness of it all... while puffing away on their nicotine sticks with a sense of happy camaraderie.

The approach we have taken to nicotine addiction has not really worked. And I don't see it having much greater effect upon people's petroleum addictions.

-Steve

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

I've not noticed any sort of spread out taxing driving many people from their nicotine addiction. Although they do tend to waste more of the time of the people in line behind them, debating whether to go with a generic brand or not. But the addicts just pay the extra taxes.

Ostracization seems to have had limited effect effect, as well. They happily stand out in the 20 degree cold, moaning with their fellows about how *cold* it is outside, railing at the unfairness of it all... while puffing away on their nicotine sticks with a sense of happy camaraderie.

The approach we have taken to nicotine addiction has not really worked. And I don't see it having much greater effect upon people's petroleum addictions.

-Steve

when I started smoking cigarettes when I was 14 they were $1.75 a pack, when I quit 5 years ago they had gone up to $4 something a pack. This has priced a lot of people out of smoking, and some just do not want to pay. Same thing applies to petrol and cars, if you are addicted to your vise you will find a way to pay for it. If you can afford it, it's not a big deal what things cost.

Live with in your means..... problem solved