Winter and Heater (A/C)

[IllusionX]

^^ there's that.

but the canadian yaris.. and i believe the cold weather packaged yaris also, have an electric heater to help the interior warm up faster.

[yaris2010RS]

Originally Posted by IllusionX

^^ there's that.

but the canadian yaris.. and i believe the cold weather packaged yaris also, have an electric heater to help the interior warm up faster.

has anyone actually found evidence of this? lol. i've seen it around here but is it actually true? i find in my car, untill the little green COLD light (which i am not a great fan of) turns off i willl not get much of any heat

EDIT: and would we also not get a little bit of a toaster like smell. all electric heaters let off some sort of smell for the first little while

[BuildCode]

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

has anyone actually found evidence of this? lol. i've seen it around here but is it actually true? i find in my car, untill the little green COLD light (which i am not a great fan of) turns off i willl not get much of any heat

EDIT: and would we also not get a little bit of a toaster like smell. all electric heaters let off some sort of smell for the first little while

Not sure, I wondered the same thing after reading about the electric heater on YW.

Is the cold weather package different than the all weather package? I just looked at my window sticker, and my "all weather guard" package has: Larger window washer tank with low level warning indicator lamp, heavy-duty heater, heavy-duty starter and rear heater duct.

[Yaris Hilton]

That may be the source of the rumor, but a "heavy duty heater" isn't an electric heater.

[BuildCode]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

That may be the source of the rumor, but a "heavy duty heater" isn't an electric heater.

That's what I had figured after going through a winter with no signs of electric heat. Is it a bigger heater core then?

[Yaris Hilton]

That's my understanding.

Someone with time on their hands and a Toyota parts catalog could prove it easily.

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

has anyone actually found evidence of this? lol. i've seen it around here but is it actually true? i find in my car, untill the little green COLD light (which i am not a great fan of) turns off i willl not get much of any heat

EDIT: and would we also not get a little bit of a toaster like smell. all electric heaters let off some sort of smell for the first little while

Mine does not produce much heat either until the light turns off :( Anyhow, i don't think we'll ever find evidence of it until someone actually takes the car apart.

Someone needs to grab the complete repair manual from a toyota dealer. I'll try to remind myself to ask for the heater core assembly diagram see what shows in there....

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

has anyone actually found evidence of this?

I'd been assuming that evidence existed. But... a quick search doesn't turn anything up. I've heard that it's a ceramic heater. (Makes sense.) But a search of the FSM PDFs for "ceramic" doesn't return anything relevant. Neither does a search for "heater". Then again, I'm finding that the the FSM is more concerned about the acceptable pulse-width of the signal from the wiper speed sensor than it is about... you know... things that are actually, physically important for the functioning of the car. Things made out of metal rather than silicon. Like pistons, brake rotors, and heater cores.

The utility of an auxiiary electric ceramic heater is dubious. If you look around at various highway travel stops (e.g. Love's) you can find 12v, 15 amp electric heaters that plug into the 12v outlet. They draw between 150 and 200 watts, and are fairly inexpensive. So you can easily judge for yourself. They put out a *barely* perceptible stream of sorta warm air. If the Cold Weather Package built-in version drew 50 amps(!), that would be about 700 watts at 14 volts and *might* make a slight difference. (And why are we still using 12v electrical systems in the year 2010, I wonder?)

-Steve