Gun debate

[Emerge]

Originally Posted by Gideon

That still does not protect you from civil suits, which don't care if you were within your legal rights

My opinion is that everyone should be able to own a gun following proper training classes, even at a young age so children learn to respect firearms and understand the reponsibility that caring for a gun requires. Gun safety starts with the owner and no one else.

That said, time to rant. lol

Can you believe that I'm not allowed to buy rubber rounds for my home defense shotgun due to county restrictions/ban on non-lethal rounds.

Hope they don't mind if/when I fill some baddy with birdshot.

Good post. I forgot about non lethal defensive weapons.

[yaris2010RS]

seriously i have had knives and guns drawn on me. it doesn't make me think i should have shot them. its life. and u jsut kinda have to hope the "bad ppl" go aaway.

[yaris-me]

I use to ride my bike in Orange County. One day I was chased by two teenage boys on 20" bicycles. I out ran them easily. I started to carry a knife. Then one day in a Mexican neighborhood a gang of adults started yelling at me and making threatening gestures, but I rode away calmly. Then I decided to carry a bayonet in my Yaris. On many occasions I have been threatened with road rage. Just glance at someone on the freeway the wrong way and you the bird. I thought about buying a gun.

So how do you carry a gun in a HB Yaris legally in California?

[yarisitis]

Here's something to make this thread funnier than it already is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7jqLie6-Y0


Get'r dun.

[zachryboles]

i wish that was my neighbor..... fortunately for my neighbors i am that guy.... ive already scared off two people from trying to steal my neighbors whip.... and he in turn watches out for mine now... found out he packs as much heat as i do too lol

[yaris2010RS]

lol, here is another video i found a while back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkpwwoauuiQ

having guns is one more weakness and allows not only for u but others to get to them......

[zachryboles]

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

lol, here is another video i found a while back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkpwwoauuiQ

having guns is one more weakness and allows not only for u but others to get to them......

lol.... unless the guys is looking HARD hes not finding my straps. ive never even had a homeboy run into one.

[yarrr]

zachry you gangsta mac fry home skillet. I won't be trippin up in your hood, yo.

One question. Say you pop a cap in some gang banger while he's boosting your g-ride whipilicious flymobile. Don't you think one of the homie's homies is gonna get some vengeance up in this bitch? That would be very un-church, imo.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Gideon

That still does not protect you from civil suits, which don't care if you were within your legal rights

Since you live in California, I don't expect you to be familiar with Castle Doctrine; but in the great state of Texas if you are cleared in a shooting by a grand jury (and I cannot think of one instance where a law abiding citizen protecting themselves, their family or their property wasn't cleared), you cannot be the subject of a civil suit. That is the law here, and it works...

And Emerge, if you think you're safe in Sacramento, you are mistaken. According to the SPD's year-to-date stats, homicides are up 250% over last year, and aggravated assaults are up 7.7%!

No place is safe from crime, even Rhode Island! It may be safer than some other locations; but it still exists.

It's better to have and not need, than need and not have!

[Gideon]

^ I'm aware, thanks.

However, you may want to notice that my reply was to dauthbauer who lives in California, the land of Wal-Mart parking lot propositions.

Yeah, I was going to say something about Sacramento since I live on the outskirts. It is one of the 20 worst cities in the United States for crime and drugs. (Which is why I have my Remington loaded in the closet. )

Edit: I should mention for the sake of fairness that a lot of homcides in Sacramento are attributed to gang/drug violence. Obviously innocent people get involved (I had a coworker killed a few years ago at a New Year's Party for trying to look like a big man in front of some gangbangers) but for the most part a majority are gangbangers that get killed by other gangbangers.

[Emerge]

Originally Posted by MadMax

And Emerge, if you think you're safe in Sacramento, you are mistaken. According to the SPD's year-to-date stats, homicides are up 250% over last year, and aggravated assaults are up 7.7%!

No place is safe from crime, even Rhode Island! It may be safer than some other locations; but it still exists.

It's better to have and not need, than need and not have!

You quote where I posted that I was safe in Sacramento, and I'll retract that statement. I think you have misunderstood what I have been trying to communicate.

Oh, and I still don't feel the need to buy a gun for "protection."

[why?]

the country would be a much safer place if everyone was required trained on weapons in schools. Heck, it would prolly even stop those pesky school shootings if everyone in school had a little handgun for their gun class, right?

Whether or not you are going to get attacked/accosted is not up to you, so why not be prepared?

And fyi, i don't carry and I do not own a gun. However at 6'2" i'm not anyone's idea of an easy target.

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by MadMax

No place is safe from crime, even Rhode Island! It may be safer than some other locations; but it still exists.:

I agree, in fact, I said it first, about 15 or 20 posts back:

"Except in the city (Providence) there is very little of that crap going on. "

[Emerge]

Simply put, I feel there are other safer ways of protecting yourself. I feel that guns are unnecessary, but I would not support any initiative to take away arms from citizens until the government takes some real action to get illegal guns off the streets. There needs to be a war on terrorism here in our home.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Emerge

Simply put, I feel there are other safer ways of protecting yourself. I feel that guns are unnecessary, but I would not support any initiative to take away arms from citizens until the government takes some real action to get illegal guns off the streets. There needs to be a war on terrorism here in our home.

What other safer way is there if the criminal you are facing has a gun?

Chances are, the criminal walks away leaving you dead.

And government, or anyone else, will never be effective at taking illegal guns off the streets. That's why they're illegal and criminal! Remember, gun laws/restrictions only affect the innocent. Criminals will always have their guns.
Hence why they are criminals.

[ddongbap]

These are very similar to my guns. Just a lot less black.

[Black Yaris]

Well here in Toledo, there are armed home invasions... many armed robberies, guys running around raping and killing women. For that reason I always carry my .45 and usually my .38 as a back up. There are 2 shotguns one in the bedroom and one in the familyroom, the two rooms we are in the most. My 5'4" 100lbs wife can handle any of the weapons fine, so I know my wife will be to defend herself. With all the crap going on here, I open carry my .45 most of the time. We are also moving to Arizona, an even more gun friendly state :)

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Originally Posted by Gideon

That still does not protect you from civil suits, which don't care if you were within your legal rights

My opinion is that everyone should be able to own a gun following proper training classes, even at a young age so children learn to respect firearms and understand the reponsibility that caring for a gun requires. Gun safety starts with the owner and no one else.

That said, time to rant. lol

Can you believe that I'm not allowed to buy rubber rounds for my home defense shotgun due to county restrictions/ban on non-lethal rounds.

Hope they don't mind if/when I fill some baddy with birdshot.

They don't allow non-lethal rounds in Placer County?? That's lame.

Just use slugs.

Originally Posted by yaris-me

I use to ride my bike in Orange County. One day I was chased by two teenage boys on 20" bicycles. I out ran them easily. I started to carry a knife. Then one day in a Mexican neighborhood a gang of adults started yelling at me and making threatening gestures, but I rode away calmly. Then I decided to carry a bayonet in my Yaris. On many occasions I have been threatened with road rage. Just glance at someone on the freeway the wrong way and you the bird. I thought about buying a gun.

So how do you carry a gun in a HB Yaris legally in California?

I was robbed by two gangster kids near my old high school as I was walking back to my car with my transcripts. They threatened to shoot me.. for my freaking phone.. lol.. After that incident I have always carried two, legal length tanto blade folders on me.

As for carrying a handgun in your car -- as long as it's unloaded and in a locked case (preferably placed in the trunk of your vehicle) which is separate from the ammunition, you should be fine. I wouldn't just carry any kind of firearm in my car though.. it's best that you take it with you when you plan to have it serviced, or taking it to the range. At least, that's what I'd do. Otherwise, you're going to have to come up with some kind of excuse explaining to an officer why you are carrying it in your car (If he has reason to search and finds it there.)

For long arm firearms (rifles & shotguns) I'll be calling LASC tomorrow because I'll be hitting up their target range for some practice.

Originally Posted by ddongbap

These are very similar to my guns. Just a lot less black.

ROFL