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Old 04-28-2010, 08:47 AM   #1
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Sarcastic answer or for realsies? I have the UR 23mm sway bar. Are you suggesting the Blues and stock springs? I really want less roll, and wouldn't mind a stiffer ride.

ctrj: Interstates and highways are great in the summer, fall, late spring. But towards the end of winter they are miserable, massive chunks of concrete missing al over the place. City streets are hit or miss, when they are bad, there BAD.

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Old 04-28-2010, 11:43 AM   #2
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Sarcastic answer or for realsies?
I was serious. Good adjustable dampers will allow you to fine-tune the amount of suspension motion to your liking. Stiffer and lower springs will decrease the ride quality, especially on the bad roads that you mention. With stock springs and adjustable dampers, you can always opt to soften the shocks for a smoother ride at any time. Once you've lowered the car and upped the spring rates, you can't easily change that!

Right now, I have the 23mm rear bar and adjustable rear shocks. I run the rear shocks at full soft (which is still stiffer than stock) on the street, and crank them stiff for autocross. Works great.

With adjustables on all four corners, you can set the stiffness wherever you want.

FYI, most adjustable shocks are adjusting the rebound damping, not the compression damping. So, when you set them stiffer, you're not resisting the compression of the suspension on the side that is on the outside of the turn, but resisting the LIFT of the suspension on the inside of the turn.

If you picture this happening on the rear of the car, you can see that it has the same effect as stiffening the swaybar. When you turn, a swaybar applies the upward suspension movement from the outside wheel to the inside wheel, causing it to lift and transfer that weight to the diagonally opposite (outside front) wheel. If you crank up the rebound damping on the rear of the car, when you turn, the inside wheel resists extending, transferring that weight to the outside front again.

Anyway. Yeah. If you want street comfort, keep stock spring rates and stock ride height. The rear bar, good adjustable dampers and good tires will give you plenty of body roll reduction and good handling.
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