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http://www.vibratesoftware.com/html_...ear_Ratios.htm http://www.vehix.com/car-reviews/200...specifications http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4997 They are exactly the same. Maybe the sites are wrong? The only difference is the final drive (which is easily changed between transmissions). But the gear ratios are the same. |
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06-19-2010, 08:02 PM | #57 |
BTW...rev-matching is just bringing the engine rpm up to match the tranny's output shaft speed...usually when down shifting. It's got nothing to do with "double clutching".
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06-19-2010, 09:13 PM | #58 |
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after all the drama in this thread, and watching that video on how to shift without using the clutch, I decided to try it. It worked surprisingly well... no grinding, no loud noises, just a slight bump when shifting. I cannot vouch for it's long term reliability, but it seems like a handy skill if you ever need it (hurt leg, clutch problems etc.) Sayuki handled it like a champ.
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a good thing to know for sure.
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...so who won...the clutchers or the anti clutchers?
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06-21-2010, 06:50 PM | #61 |
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Aamco transmission wins,lol
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I tried it too and it worked. Wait, I have an auto
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lol yea but manuals rule
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FYI, shifting w/o the clutch pedal is going to ruin your exhaust hanger fluid.
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I tried in my sedan and it works!
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The argument was never whether or not it works. We knew it worked.
It's a matter of it being worth destroying your synchros. To me, it isn't. -SAV
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Its obvious. Sooner or later you will miss the perfect shifting point. And sooner or later you will get the result.
Really, i can't believe people are testing to shift without clutch because of this thread now. Thats ridicolous and a shame. Thread should be deleted before something happens. |
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Unless its done just exactly right, your putting more wear on the synchros. Done just right(usually learned on a non-synchro tranny) its not bad. But on modern car tranny's with synchromesh you may not be 100% right and that when the excess wear comes in. The synchros are there so that you dont have to learn proper technique, and when the clutch is used, they make up the difference in tranny/motor speed under no load situation. When rev matching is done you are for all practical purposes floating the gears like a non synchro tranny. Like I said, when done exactly right,its not bad, its just learning it 100% correct that cause expensive tranny rebuild jobs. Some guys here have apparently learned it well, others will create job security for local repair shops,LOL
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None of the transmissions Ive shifted without using the clutch ever had a problem and some of them had 250k+ miles on them and were shifted like that several times a week. YMMV.
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Nobody here can give me proof. Only speculation.
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