If you were going to get an AWD car ...

[bkrownd]

I like the SX4 format, but the weird AWD clutch system is scary in terms of the car's longevity and ultimate repair costs. (We drive AWD 4-Runners and Jeeps at work and they always have issues with their stupid dash knob based electronic on-the-fly shifting systems.) I want a simple REAL manually shifted locked 4WD for REAL off-road. If you can weld one into the SX4 I will be a customer. I don't have much use for AWD here, but locked 4WD and good clearance is required for many of our roads. I realize you suburbanites out there love your on-the-fly technobleep AWD winter cars - my purpose is just different.

[BailOut]

I would get a used SX-4. It is small enough to be practical, gets the best MPG of any AWD, and has a much higher reliability and consumer satisfaction rating than the Subaru line.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by bkrownd

We drive AWD 4-Runners and Jeeps at work and they always have issues with their stupid dash knob based electronic on-the-fly shifting systems.

That's because real Jeeps don't have "stupid dash knob based electronic on-the-fly shifting systems!"

I want a simple REAL manually shifted locked 4WD for REAL off-road.

Again, a real Jeep has that!

In case you are wondering what a real Jeep looks like, here's an example...





Cheers! M2

[bkrownd]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Again, a real Jeep has that!

Unfortunately they also get horrible MPG.

Our facility used to have 2000-ish Grand Cherokees. They were arse-kicking rockets on the mountain. I was so sad when we started replacing them with the newer Grand Cherokees and found out that they changed them into flaccid soccer-mom cruisers.