Our Shoot First Law

[TLyttle]

Well, Black Yaris, I suppose that is a possibility alright. However, let me make a couple of points: Up here in Canada, we are taught that stuff belongs ot other people and that just because it is available does not mean it is free for the taking. Poor education and lousy courts make for people unable to learn this point.

Except for the firing range, I have only heard gunfire once here, and never where I lived before, Vancouver. Unlike the US, guns are frowned upon here, and the use of guns draws very heavy penalties. I have never felt the need to protect my stuff nor my family, never in my life as a Canadian. I wish I could say the same for the US: gunfire in LA was a nightly occurrence, weekly in rural Arizona! Why? Why is it necessary to use firearms, or even carry firearms? Who is responsible for these people who use them for nefarious purposes? Think about it for awhile, and you will find that you yourselves have built this scenario, and that is why it all stops at the US border. After you have thought long and hard, you will see that it is the education system, and the media, responsible for your ongoing paranoia. Why would anyone use Clint Eastwood or John Wayne as an icon for acceptable behaviour? No other ecivilised country has such a bizarre attitude towards such violence!

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

Well, Black Yaris, I suppose that is a possibility alright. However, let me make a couple of points: Up here in Canada, we are taught that stuff belongs ot other people and that just because it is available does not mean it is free for the taking. Poor education and lousy courts make for people unable to learn this point.

Except for the firing range, I have only heard gunfire once here, and never where I lived before, Vancouver. Unlike the US, guns are frowned upon here, and the use of guns draws very heavy penalties. I have never felt the need to protect my stuff nor my family, never in my life as a Canadian. I wish I could say the same for the US: gunfire in LA was a nightly occurrence, weekly in rural Arizona! Why? Why is it necessary to use firearms, or even carry firearms? Who is responsible for these people who use them for nefarious purposes? Think about it for awhile, and you will find that you yourselves have built this scenario, and that is why it all stops at the US border. After you have thought long and hard, you will see that it is the education system, and the media, responsible for your ongoing paranoia. Why would anyone use Clint Eastwood or John Wayne as an icon for acceptable behaviour? No other ecivilised country has such a bizarre attitude towards such violence!

Well, I see your POV... But it seams as we live in two different worlds. You may bash our education of what is wrong and what is right, but that is the world I live in. I do not live in a big city, but we have one of the highest unemployment rates in the county. People are desperate, and there are many layoffs in public safety. I have been robbed at gun point more than once, there are many home invasions, car jackings, muggings amongst other crimes of desperation here. My family is armed well in case, and I hope that day never comes. I never wish to take a life, but if it comes down to their life or mine, I will not hesitate.

You live in my world, I am sure you would change your mind.... and if I lived in yours, I am sure I would as well.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

No other civilised country has such a bizarre attitude towards such violence!

Eh? Every country that I know off has some form of organized defense which includes the use of weapons to protects its interests, even Canada (I do know you still have an armed forces because I am good friends of someone who is in it!).

So it's OK for country's to use violence to protect their interests and "property" but that's not the right of the common man?

If another country invaded Canada, it would respond with force, wouldn't it? Well, just consider Castle Doctrine to be a smaller version of that, I have the right to defend my interests and property from those who threaten it.

Hell, even the Swiss understand this, and they are bigger pacifists than the Canadians!