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[spkrman]

just to add a little something extra...

going to the 6 spd may also improve mileage? Depends on the gearing Iknow, but shouldnt it provide highway cruising at a lower rpm?

if I could get from 33-35 to 43-45, this swap would pay for itself :)

[Walter]

Originally Posted by spkrman

just to add a little something extra...

going to the 6 spd may also improve mileage? Depends on the gearing Iknow, but shouldnt it provide highway cruising at a lower rpm?

if I could get from 33-35 to 43-45, this swap would pay for itself :)

A guy did this swap in an Echo, here is quoted text from his research:
"This thread is a spec sheet for the conversion I'll be doing this end of the month ... C150N which is our tranny to C160N which is the 6spd off a '96 to '97 AE111 Black Top 20valved Levin Corolla...

heres your specs:
GEAR C150N C160N
1st---------------------3.545---------------------3.166
2nd---------------------1.904---------------------2.050
3rd---------------------1.310---------------------1.481
4th---------------------0.969---------------------1.166
5th---------------------0.815---------------------0.916
6th-------------------------------------------------0.725
reverse----------------3.250--------------------3.250
Final Drive------------3.526---------------------4.529"

He also said that he cruises at 3850 rpm in 6th gear at 80 mph.

[03Z33]

That's actually pretty short gearing, I don't think you'll see a drop in revs at hwy cruising. Don't forget that the AE111 Blacktop makes 165HP at 8000RPM stock. It has more rev's to play with, but this should still be a good match for stock 1NZFE since even though we don't rev as high, we can benefit from the tighter ratios.

[Walter]

Originally Posted by 03Z33

That's actually pretty short gearing, I don't think you'll see a drop in revs at hwy cruising. Don't forget that the AE111 Blacktop makes 165HP at 8000RPM stock. It has more rev's to play with, but this should still be a good match for stock 1NZFE since even though we don't rev as high, we can benefit from the tighter ratios.

Still tight ratios, but not so tight that any future turbo applications would suffer... plenty of spool time. Handles the power. Seems like a awesome compilation of all things good with this tranny.

I only found one place to buy so far, at $700! I was reading a little on what the Echo guy did and he did need a little bit of fab work...

Oh well, Ill see how much I have left over after I get all the goodies I want to buy with my refund. Youre Cuscos are definately first on my list, so hopefully (for me, not you I know youve been trying to sell them for a while) you still have them when I get my refund.

I know I will probably collect these parts for the 6 speed conversion over time as they become available so Im not worried about it. Already talked to Ray at Kaaz so Im going to hit him up as soon as I gather all I need.