Motortrend : 2012 YARIS : 1st drive of ...

[Kal-El]

How come every time a new 2012 Yaris thread is posted, all the comments suggest that it's the first time that each poster has seen the car?

This car was introduced with tons of coverage/threads way back in August of last year.

[1NZYaris1]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

How come every time a new 2012 Yaris thread is posted, all the comments suggest that it's the first time that each poster has seen the car?

This car was introduced with tons of coverage/threads way back in August of last year.

becuase in true American style, they have memory's like DORY,
and lead feet that can't walk.
It's quite simple guy's and girls , it's a car not a fashion statement .
it's made to go From A-B in realative comfort and a shit load more fuel economy that the current Yaris , if you dont like it dont buy it .
but dont complain about the next to no fuel economy of your Yank Tanks

[rick996]

Originally Posted by 1NZYaris1

It's quite simple guy's and girls , it's a car not a fashion statement .
it's made to go From A-B in realative comfort and a shit load more fuel economy that the current Yaris , if you dont like it dont buy it .
but dont complain about the next to no fuel economy of your Yank Tanks

I agree. What I want out of a car is dependable, economical transportation. A little comfort is nice but not necessary.

I loved my 1987 3-cylinder, 65hp, 2-door, 5-spd Subaru Justy. Base model. No A/C, no radio and crank them yourself windows for $5500 new (remember the nerd commercial? Will the doors fall off?). Reliable as dirt and an easy 40 MPG even with my extremely aggressive driving at the time. We went camping in it, a family of four with bikes strapped on the back and towing a small utility trailer. Kept it until I was rear ended by a truck and pushed into the car in front of me at 130,000 miles. Drove the shortened version of it for another week and a half until the insurance company gave me $50 for it. The red paint was faded and there was duct tape over the rust holes on the hood and doors. I about cried when It was hauled away .

There was the Suzuki mini truck I had when I lived in northern Japan. A 360cc 2-stroke under the bench seat, a 4 on the column and a tank that held 4 gallons of premix. The idea of heat was to draw air over the engine and blow it into the cab. The defroster would blow snow on us and I had to scrape my breath off the inside of the windshield. But it always got us wherever we wanted to go.

Those were totally acceptable cars. My Yaris is luxury .

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by 1NZYaris1

and a shit load more fuel economy that the current Yaris

what am I missing here?

[Kal-El]

One thing's for sure, if the US spec Yaris doesn't earn an EPA highway rating of at least 40 MPG, then it will be a big letdown from Toyota. It basically means that Hyundai, Ford, and GM has surpassed Toyota in fuel efficiency (outside of Prius). Right now, most of their models already beat Toyota's comparable models. So far, Toyota's gotten away with it because their models are older, but when the redesigns come along, they need to match or beat the other guys.

Already, the Fiesta, Cruze ECO, Elantra, '12 Focus FE achieve at least 40 MPG and they are the next size class up to boot (except Fiesta). There needs to be a fuel efficiency incentive to buy a subcompact over a compact. I think the Yaris needs to be 42 MPG.

[Yaristeve]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

One thing's for sure, if the US spec Yaris doesn't earn an EPA highway rating of at least 40 MPG, then it will be a big letdown from Toyota. It basically means that Hyundai, Ford, and GM has surpassed Toyota in fuel efficiency (outside of Prius).

Not necessarily. Toyotas have rarely been the MPG leader in their respective classes; I've always wondered how Toyota got a reputation for good gas mileage. OTOH, I believe Toyotas sell well because they are made well, are a good value, and get "good enough" MPG.

[dingbat]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

How come every time a new 2012 Yaris thread is posted, all the comments suggest that it's the first time that each poster has seen the car?

This car was introduced with tons of coverage/threads way back in August of last year.

I don't know about everyone else but, first time I've seen photos of it without black mats taped all over it.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by dingbat

I don't know about everyone else but, first time I've seen photos of it without black mats taped all over it.

http://yarisworld.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=65

Just figured that since the 3rd generation forum has somewhere over 32,000 views, most people would be aware of it.

It's been posted 100's of times, the first of which was Oct. 2 of last year, 6 months ago!

http://yarisworld.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=76

[minired5stby]

Not everyone lives on YW

[dingbat]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

http://yarisworld.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=65

Just figured that since the 3rd generation forum has somewhere over 32,000 views, most people would be aware of it.

It's been posted 100's of times, the first of which was Oct. 2 of last year, 6 months ago!

http://yarisworld.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=76

Ah, see....now it all makes sense. Check out my post history. End of September is when I go into my busy season.

So if something monumental in the world of Yari happens next fall/winter, I'll expect a pm from you so I don't miss out. Ok?

[Kongo-Otto]

I don´t like the new "angular" design of Toyota. It does not like the the Auris. The Auris has a very round design like the Yaris, too.

Engines for Europe:
1.33 litre ~100hp Dual-VVTi
1.5 litre ~120 hp Dual-VVTi
1.4 D4-D Diesel engine ~90 hp
1.5 litre hybrid engine

hp values are estimated by me

Engines for the US:
1.5 litre, the old one

[yaristotle]

EPIC FAIL.... no 3 glove comparments, no cupholders near vents, no uniqueness, NO SALE

[DMZ]

Originally Posted by yaristotle

EPIC FAIL.... no 3 glove comparments, no cupholders near vents, no uniqueness, NO SALE

Exactly. I remember how much I liked my Subaru FF1 because of all of it's quirky idiosyncrasies. When the Subaru went mainstream, I lost interest.