Federal Govt. expecting shutdown on APRIL 9TH

[TRDMarty]

I wish the government would have shut down for at least 1 day.
For the 1 day they wouldn't have been able to spend any more money!!

[JumpmanYaris]

Originally Posted by TRDMarty

I wish the government would have shut down for at least 1 day.
For the 1 day they wouldn't have been able to spend any more money!!

What type of work you do? You must not have a gov. job

[cdydjded]

Originally Posted by JumpmanYaris

What type of work you do? You must not have a gov. job

Hey Jump, FYI: Did you know that the only sector in the US that is not in a recession & is hiring instead of firing people is the US government? Do you know why? Cause the government is not run like a business. Only a government entity can loose money year after year (Like the USPS which lost $8.5 billion last year) and stays open. If they did you would most likely be part of the 9% of american that are unemployed. As the private sector is suffering the public sector is flourishing.

[Shinare]

Originally Posted by cdydjded

... As the private sector is suffering the public sector is flourishing.

I guess you failed to read the post directly before you own.

[cdydjded]

Originally Posted by Shinare

I guess you failed to read the post directly before you own.

I did read what you post. But what you seem not to understand the difference between a "furlough" (temporary layoff from work, unpaid) & getting fired (permanent layoff from work, unpaid). Why should government workers not suffer the same fate as private sector workers? Why does the government not run like a business? The answer comes down to votes! You are not going to vote out of office the person who keeps you employed even though they are destroying the private sector.....

[Yaristeve]

Originally Posted by cdydjded

Why should government workers not suffer the same fate as private sector workers? Why does the government not run like a business? The answer comes down to votes! You are not going to vote out of office the person who keeps you employed even though they are destroying the private sector.....

Let me ask you this: when time are good why shouldn't government workers enjoy the same benefits as private sector workers? I've never heard anyone ever say, "Times are good, let's give the government workers bonuses, perks, and raises just like us!!" No, generally, it is, "Well, they chose to work in government because they want a stable job when times are bad. That is the trade-off they signed up for so they don't deserve bonuses, perks, or raises."

Well, times are bad and so it is time to collect our "perk"...

[Shinare]

Originally Posted by Yaristeve

Let me ask you this: when time are good why shouldn't government workers enjoy the same benefits as private sector workers? I've never heard anyone ever say, "Times are good, let's give the government workers bonuses, perks, and raises just like us!!" No, generally, it is, "Well, they chose to work in government because they want a stable job when times are bad. That is the trade-off they signed up for so they don't deserve bonuses, perks, or raises."

Well, times are bad and so it is time to collect our "perk"...

Heh, I like how you put that... "Perk". :)

My perk has been that in the 9 years I have worked for the state, the legislature has voted a pay raise for state employees a whopping 3 times at between 2 and 4%. So while everyone else's paychecks are going up, ours are going down because of higher insurance rates and higher cost of living increases. (such as higher cost of food, gas etc.) Because of higher insurance rates my paycheck LITERALLY gets smaller every year, not just in relation to cost of living, but actual dollars and cents.

And yes, that's right, we have to be VOTED in a raise, we don't get one every year just because cost of living increases or even if we do an exemplary job. Do you think the legislature is going to vote us a raise when we are already cutting jobs due to payroll shortfalls. (funny tho, isn't it, that the legislature never fails to vote THEMSELVES a raise every stinking year)

*sigh* there really is no "perk" to working for the state anymore. When I started we had some of the lowest insurance costs around, and many, now gone, benefits. The only thing we still get is 3 weeks vacation per year, and if you think you can be gone that much without worrying about having a job when you get back, think again.

[DevilGirl]

Originally Posted by TRDMarty

I wish the government would have shut down for at least 1 day.
For the 1 day they wouldn't have been able to spend any more money!!

Originally Posted by JumpmanYaris

What type of work you do? You must not have a gov. job

For the govt to shut down, it would actually cost more money.

In a govt shutdown, there are quite a lot of agencies that are still running and the employees still have to report to work, but not get paid, and that's because they are "essential," such as making sure SSA recipients get their paychecks, which in most cases is their sole source of income, and not that great to begin with.

My job is one of those. Which means I would still need to commute the 2.5 hours each way, an hour of which is driving. So there's gas to put in my car, tolls to pay for, a train ticket to pay for. All for what? To not get paid?

Then of course, take into consideration all the support staff (contractors) that are needed to keep the building open for us employees to work that aren't getting paid. The cost of electricity to run the building for those shutdown days, etc.

So in reality, a shutdown is the last thing you want to have happen.

[JumpmanYaris]

You mean to tell me you still have to do what you normaly do with out the pay

F^$# this man I rather go work in a strip club, Ill get a kick out of that and still get money lol

[Shinare]

Originally Posted by TRDMarty

I wish the government would have shut down for at least 1 day.
For the 1 day they wouldn't have been able to spend any more money!!

I work for a state agency and unfortunately we are already doing that, its called a "furlough" (temporary layoff from work, unpaid).