Scion FR-S aka Toyota FT-86?

[why?]

Originally Posted by Kioshi

They do, I've seen the raised pricing on models like xD and used xA and xB (1st gen models)....Stevens Creek Toyota, Hayward Toyota, Piercey Toyota, Fremont Toyota....i can go on and on about the other dealerships pricey Scion models.
The Scion (Netz) iQ is suppose to be around the 17k mark, MORE than a well equipped Yaris.....Scion are overpriced....maybe not on your end~

And Scion are a waste....at least the direction they are headed. Not back in the xA and xB days...



That modding thing they advertise is a JOKE. Most of it are interior upgrades and a few ugly ass body kits...overpriced yet AGAIN~
The only thing i liked was that they had the SuperCharger (?) for the 1st gen tC directly from Toyota...

Scion is NOTHING like Netz and other brands of Toyota in Japan..vast modding options there~

I know because before the Yaris i was about to buy a base model tC 16k out the door at Oakland Toyota in 2007....

I HOPE they dont badge this as a Scion.....reduced expectation of sales...modding community will point and laugh because Scion really hasnt shown a great reputation unlike Nissan, Honda, and Mitsubishi...

Oh well, at least i can get the Subaru version.

Here's hoping that Toyota gives the tuner community a place in its alrady family lineup....

Toyota doesn't care about sports cars anymore. The only low production loss leaders they are interested in is hybrids.

And frankly this thing isnt going to change that. No specs i have seen make me think it could go toe to toe with either a WRX or the STi or Evo. And if it can't it isn't worth producing.

[thepartsmancometh]

Originally Posted by why?

Toyota doesn't care about sports cars anymore. The only low production loss leaders they are interested in is hybrids.

And frankly this thing isnt going to change that. No specs i have seen make me think it could go toe to toe with either a WRX or the STi or Evo. And if it can't it isn't worth producing.

true story. naturally aspirated 2.0 liter boxer. sounds like an angry tractor and makes...150 hp?

When I first heard about the concept I was very very excited (being both a subaru and toyota fan), then they said it was a 2.0 without a turbo

I would almost bet money that my wrx would take it anyday

[SKurj]

There will be more than one engine available with possibly the STi engine being one of them. I think the base is just the 2.0