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[dingbat]

Originally Posted by why?

I wouldn't call them similar to the Yaris though. Maybe in concept, but the feel is just so much different. Plus does a Scirocco really have a torsion bar rear?

Having owned and raced a '79 Scirocco, and owned (for an admittedly short time now) a 2010 Yaris 3 door, I think the cars feel very similar, except for driver position, which will affect location of the center of mass. My own opinion of course, but I think what works for one, will work for the other when talking in basic concepts.
Yes, to the best of my knowledge, all the A1 chassis VWs had torsion bar rear ends. My '79 Scirocco did, and so did every A1 chassis I've ever been under. Maybe not the pickups?

Originally Posted by why?

I'm still just grasping suspension tuning and what it really does. But I bet driver skill had a ton to do with it too.

Always correct.
Same drivers however were faster in the setup I'm referring to than in a "conventional" setup in the same car. One of the cars ran in stock class and won SCCA Solo II nationals. May have even been both drivers, one male one female. The other cars have made very good showings nationally and divisionaly. Point being, they were competing against excellent drivers to start with.

And forgive me, I was talking specifically about the A1 chassis in my post above. I should have been clear about that.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by dingbat

Always correct.
Same drivers however were faster in the setup I'm referring to than in a "conventional" setup in the same car. One of the cars ran in stock class and won SCCA Solo II nationals. May have even been both drivers, one male one female. The other cars have made very good showings nationally and divisionaly. Point being, they were competing against excellent drivers to start with.

And forgive me, I was talking specifically about the A1 chassis in my post above. I should have been clear about that.

Many years ago Bob and Patty Tunnell ran a Jetta Wolfsburg very successfully (1992 ES/ESL Champions) in stock class... I seem to recall the running joke was their front swaybar was from a Winnebago.

[dingbat]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

Many years ago Bob and Patty Tunnell ran a Jetta Wolfsburg very successfully (1992 ES/ESL Champions) in stock class... I seem to recall the running joke was their front swaybar was from a Winnebago.

That's the one......"Mongo".

I was told the bar was custom made at an RV shop out of stock normaly used for RV swaybars. Though I don't know the exact dimensions, it was suposedly "as big as a baby's arm". My friend in town here, who is using a setup that decended from ideas inspired by the Tunnell's Jetta, runs a front bar off a Pontiac Firebird that is over 30mm.