Lost Serpentine Belt

[Brian]

That's what I figured. Do you know what resistor to use?

[CTScott]

Originally Posted by Brian

That's what I figured. Do you know what resistor to use?

A value between 270 to 350 ohms is perfect. That will fool the ECM into thinking that the water temp is between 172 and 186 F.

[NickNickNick]

Engine is out. Upon looking at other parts of the car, the clutch is also going to need to be replaced, which I am doing while the engine is done. I beginning to think more and more than there was something seriously wrong with my car that no one caught about 7000km ago when I had it in.

I have started a case file at Toyota to see what they have to say.

On the other hand, I am extremely pleased with the service I have gotten from this particular Toyota dealership. They have really done an excellent job of explaining to me what they are doing and why it needs to be done. I have very little other than basic knowledge about cars, and the service provided at Moose Jaw Toyota has been excellent.

[Jason@SportsCar]

The drive belt is a wear item, and if you were still on the original you were likely well past its useful life.

[NickNickNick]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

The drive belt is a wear item, and if you were still on the original you were likely well past its useful life.

I have two reports. One from June 21, 2010 where the drive belt was loosened and lubricated.

The second from May 5, 2011 where the drive belt was checked and reported as being in excellent shape.

The issue isn't really the drive belt anyway - it's the fact that I paid good money for a brand new car that I thought would last at least 10 years without any engine trouble.

We bought a 1998 used Cavalier shortly after the Yaris for my wife, and it has 200,000km on it with no issues at all.

Had I know I was going to have to pay $3000 to have the engine and clutch replaced on this vehicle, I would have bought a used car of a whatever brand I could get the best deal on. I bought a new Toyota because I believed in the reliability claims they make all of the time. I find it VERY difficult to believe that when I had all the parts of my car fully checked 7000km ago, they would miss a belt problem, engine problem, and a problem with the clutch (which is almost completely snapped off). Sounds defective to me.

[bankrobber]

Originally Posted by NickNickNick

I have two reports. One from June 21, 2010 where the drive belt was loosened and lubricated.

The second from May 5, 2011 where the drive belt was checked and reported as being in excellent shape.

The issue isn't really the drive belt anyway - it's the fact that I paid good money for a brand new car that I thought would last at least 10 years without any engine trouble.

We bought a 1998 used Cavalier shortly after the Yaris for my wife, and it has 200,000km on it with no issues at all.

Had I know I was going to have to pay $3000 to have the engine and clutch replaced on this vehicle, I would have bought a used car of a whatever brand I could get the best deal on. I bought a new Toyota because I believed in the reliability claims they make all of the time. I find it VERY difficult to believe that when I had all the parts of my car fully checked 7000km ago, they would miss a belt problem, engine problem, and a problem with the clutch (which is almost completely snapped off). Sounds defective to me.

How many miles you have?
I have not had a single problem with my 07 Yaris in 115,000 miles only had a light bulb replaced. BTW 3,000 is way too much for an engine and clutch it should not be more than 2,000 tops

[NickNickNick]

Originally Posted by bankrobber

How many miles you have?
I have not had a single problem with my 07 Yaris in 115,000 miles only had a light bulb replaced. BTW 3,000 is way too much for an engine and clutch it should not be more than 2,000 tops

127,000KM.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by NickNickNick

I have two reports. One from June 21, 2010 where the drive belt was loosened and lubricated.

The second from May 5, 2011 where the drive belt was checked and reported as being in excellent shape.

The issue isn't really the drive belt anyway - it's the fact that I paid good money for a brand new car that I thought would last at least 10 years without any engine trouble.

We bought a 1998 used Cavalier shortly after the Yaris for my wife, and it has 200,000km on it with no issues at all.

Had I know I was going to have to pay $3000 to have the engine and clutch replaced on this vehicle, I would have bought a used car of a whatever brand I could get the best deal on. I bought a new Toyota because I believed in the reliability claims they make all of the time. I find it VERY difficult to believe that when I had all the parts of my car fully checked 7000km ago, they would miss a belt problem, engine problem, and a problem with the clutch (which is almost completely snapped off). Sounds defective to me.

Lubricated the belt. OK. The service you get is only as good as the place you take it, and I would be suspect of any place that said they lubed a belt.

A number of things could cause a belt to fail or come off... A piece of debris from the road kicked up, if the water pump was going and had excess end play. I lost one when our aluminum crank pulley (not stock) split in two. Bad stuff happens to cars.

I would love to see a pic of an almost snapped off clutch. How does that happen, and what is it almost snapped off of? I don't know of any service inspection that checks a clutch, hard to see it without pulling the trans.

Seems like there is more to this.

I have a 2001 Expedition with 199450 miles on it, and a 2007 with 40k, guess which one has spent more time at the dealer. Its the newer one. Sometimes your are lucky with a car, others times, not so much.

[bankrobber]

[QUOTE=Jason@SportsCar;595912]Lubricated the belt. OK. The service you get is only as good as the place you take it, and I would be suspect of any place that said they lubed a belt.

I was wondering same thing. I sprayed some penetrating grease stuff on bottom bolt and I think it got on my new belt and caused it to slip a tiny bit at start up with A/C turned on. I remember people using belt ease to quiet a belt. I replaced my belt when it was getting too many cracks. A decent mechanic could replace belt in same time to "lubricate" it. New cars should come with a shut off feature when oil or water gets too hot. My Mack truck will shut off engine Before it gets hot enough to cause damage.

[NickNickNick]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

Lubricated the belt. OK. The service you get is only as good as the place you take it, and I would be suspect of any place that said they lubed a belt.

A number of things could cause a belt to fail or come off... A piece of debris from the road kicked up, if the water pump was going and had excess end play. I lost one when our aluminum crank pulley (not stock) split in two. Bad stuff happens to cars.

I would love to see a pic of an almost snapped off clutch. How does that happen, and what is it almost snapped off of? I don't know of any service inspection that checks a clutch, hard to see it without pulling the trans.

Seems like there is more to this.

I have a 2001 Expedition with 199450 miles on it, and a 2007 with 40k, guess which one has spent more time at the dealer. Its the newer one. Sometimes your are lucky with a car, others times, not so much.

The place that lubed the belt was Toyota. The place that did the full check was Toyota. I have had all major service intervals done at the Dealership.