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tooter · 10-21-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

There are some drawbacks, though.

Yeah... it's godawful FUGLY. And I'd be ashamed to drive a government subsidized "EBT" welfare car.

With a puny range of only 100 miles on its best day only means that real world range is going to be less. Vehicles like this one offer their unwitting owners a brand new experience.

It's called "range anxiety".

nookandcrannycar · 10-21-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tooter

Yeah... it's godawful FUGLY. And I'd be ashamed to drive a government subsidized "EBT" welfare car.

With a puny range of only 100 miles on its best day only means that real world range is going to be less. Vehicles like this one offer their unwitting owners a brand new experience.

It's called "range anxiety".

as well.

*kimona* · 10-21-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tooter

Vehicles like this one offer their unwitting owners a brand new experience.

It's called "range anxiety".

Agreed!

bronsin · 10-21-2013, 02:12 PM

Love the minimist thingy!

Since I drive about 75 miles a week this might be for me.

If my book does well I might get one!

nookandcrannycar · 10-21-2013, 02:54 PM

I saw more Leafs in Vermont (Nissans, not peeping at the leaves on trees

) than I've seen in the SF Bay Area in California or in Texas, or even other small (in square miles of land) states.

tooter · 10-22-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

I saw more Leafs in Vermont (Nissans, not peeping at the leaves on trees

) than I've seen in the SF Bay Area in California or in Texas, or even other small (in square miles of land) states.

I see more Teslas than Leafs!

nookandcrannycar · 10-23-2013, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tooter

I see more Teslas than Leafs!

Very interesting (and enlightening), given that both of you live in Southern California. I don't think I've seen a Tesla on the road anywhere except in the SF Bay Area.

tooter · 10-23-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Very interesting (and enlightening), given that both of you live in Southern California. I don't think I've seen a Tesla on the road anywhere except in the SF Bay Area.

They're actually quite popular here in SoCal. One of my neighbors even has two of them, a big sedan and the little sports coupe.

Greg

Hershey · 10-22-2013, 01:00 PM

We have well water . No fracking wanted . Over time gas prices would go up and would be exported like that of Saudi Arabia and other oil rich countries . They're already making preparations for exportation . This has deeply divided communities . For each their own .

cali yaris · 10-22-2013, 02:48 PM

^ no kidding, it's true!

cali yaris · 10-22-2013, 02:49 PM

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If Obama would allow drilling on federal land to return to previous levels, the U.S. would become energy independent even sooner, and this point would become moot.

During his administration, our country has become 30% LESS dependent on oil. Way better track record than his predecessor.

nookandcrannycar · 10-23-2013, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

During his administration, our country has become 30% LESS dependent on oil. Way better track record than his predecessor.

That is largely because of increased production on NON U.S. government controlled land due to advancements in technology re extracting the oil, neither of which has advanced because of substantive action from Obama.

dj92 · 10-23-2013, 02:08 PM

I won't buy such a car unless I can go on longer trips with it, by that, I mean 200...500km per charge AND recharging the battery in less than an hour.
Obviously, this is a matter of improving energy weight and density.
LiFepo4s are an interesting thing, they're still far too expensive for me and their major advantage over li-ion is only the achievable lifetime, but I consider using them to build an EV myself (maybe from a 2CV).
I ride about 10...15 miles per day, but once to twice a month it's 2*50 miles and sometimes even more.
For the daily driving, almost every EV would be enough, but for the longer trips I would have to get at least an IQ or something like that.
We got our hopes up here that a real multiple-use license plate would be established where you would have to pay both insurance and tax for one (logically the more expensive one) car and be able to have another one without additional costs.
It is in fact available now, but it's expensive (about 150$), and you have to pay the full tax rate for each car.
Just the insurance (without having one you must not use your car at all!) might give some rebate.
So I will stay with my Yaris, but the next one might be a Prius.
It's not that compact, but I like the amount of technology built in there :)

EDIT:
I rather consider building somtehing like a PEEL P50 because for vehicles with a <=50ccm engine that run less than 45km/h (in reality it's almost always about 50km/h (31MPH), which is still legal and the maximum velocity on urban roads here) you just need a rather cheap insurance (just done a calculation, about 35,6€ from now until 28.2.2014 for such a car).
Sadly, studying takes almost all the time I have and even if it's not a >45km/h car, it's a hassle to get it street legal.

Kal-El · 10-23-2013, 02:14 PM

No Tesla's anywhere near my area. Seems like they're only in CA. Their are a number of Leaf's here.

nookandcrannycar · 10-23-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-El

No Tesla's anywhere near my area. Seems like they're only in CA. Their are a number of Leaf's here.

I don't think we'll see them in Texas in the near future. Musk is tussling with the State of Texas re wanting to do sales direct from the manufacturer. I like most of the laws here that might effect me, and I don't like Musk, but in this case I think (philosophically, not legally) that Musk is right and the state is wrong. Current law = result of too much 'squeaky wheel'/jawboning from dealers.

nookandcrannycar · 12-15-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-El

No Tesla's anywhere near my area. Seems like they're only in CA. Their are a number of Leaf's here.

I saw a Tesla on October 24th, 2013 in Middletown, Rhode Island. I was pulling out of the parking lot at a bank and he was pulling in. I think that was the only one I've seen east of the Mississippi River.

bronsin · 10-23-2013, 03:11 PM

Mush needs to build an electric car that has a 200 mile range and costs $15,000.

Preferably $10,000/

Love what SpaceX is doing though!

Whens the next launch?

nookandcrannycar · 10-23-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

Mush needs to build an electric car that has a 200 mile range and costs $15,000.

Preferably $10,000/

Love what SpaceX is doing though!

Whens the next launch?

I agree.

10-21-2013, 02:12 PM	#4
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	Love the minimist thingy! Since I drive about 75 miles a week this might be for me. If my book does well I might get one! __________________ Synthetic Oil: Its All In Your Head

10-22-2013, 02:48 PM	#10
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	^ no kidding, it's true! __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

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bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	Mush needs to build an electric car that has a 200 mile range and costs $15,000. Preferably $10,000/ Love what SpaceX is doing though! Whens the next launch? __________________ Synthetic Oil: Its All In Your Head

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