Is the Yaris outdated?

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by refotsirk

I read last week in the news that BMW was teaming up with Toyota for future diesel engine mergings.
I wonder who makes what? BMW body, Toyota diesel engine? Or other way around?
A Yaris diesel engine.....hmmmm I could pull my kayak then on a trailer? Or more?
More HP for my bang for my buck?
Or I wonder if this is just for the EU markets?

That would be wonderful combination. That might actually tempt me to sell my Yaris and buy another one with a diesel engine. The right size diesel in a Yaris could get you 60 MPG.

That being said, I don't think we would get it in the US market. We always suck hind tit on Toyota innovation in the US.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by daf62757

That would be wonderful combination. That might actually tempt me to sell my Yaris and buy another one with a diesel engine. The right size diesel in a Yaris could get you 60 MPG.

That being said, I don't think we would get it in the US market. We always suck hind tit on Toyota innovation in the US.

Sadly, the day of the diesel engine as an economic proposition is over. Diesel fuel is over 25% more expensive than gasoline, effectively nullifying any advantage it used to have. When you factor in the added premium of a diesel engine over a gas powered one that is the final nail in the coffin.

No the most cost effective engine is a small gas one in the lightest car possible.

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Sadly, the day of the diesel engine as an economic proposition is over. Diesel fuel is over 25% more expensive than gasoline, effectively nullifying any advantage it used to have. When you factor in the added premium of a diesel engine over a gas powered one that is the final nail in the coffin.

No the most cost effective engine is a small gas one in the lightest car possible.

Yea....no! I think your thinking is reminiscent of early times when US auto makers tried to produce diesels and failed....as most US manufactures do! There is a new generation of diesel engines that are clean burning and offer 20 to 30 percent better gas mileage than a gas engine of the same size. Now if diesel fuel, when comparing mileage vs cost, is more expensive than regular unleaded gas, then you comments holds true. But if the mileage is better and cheaper even when factoring in more expensive fuel, then diesel is a good alternative.

As more people start to use diesel, you can expect the price to drop as more dealers carry more non-freight diesel. Not the landslide of savings and increased mileage, but for those who pinch pennies, it might be a winning long term alternative.