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Old 03-16-2012, 09:41 AM   #1
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Some other info about deadening... NOTE: this is some information I saved trying to help another car-audio enthusiast, you can take this as an advice, but not like a book, many people have their own opinions and we respect them all.

Noise comes from the road, tires, engine. Focus on the floor, wheel wells, fire wall!

Yes treat the doors like speaker boxes, you will need some extra mat to give the metal some mass and ccfoam to prevent ratles + MLV to block road noise.

Next: (measure in square feet)
-doors
-floor
-wheel wells
-quarter panels

Basic rule of thumb you only need 25% of a flat area to cover with Tiles, these are expensive and it's good to spend the money here, for example, a door is 4 sf you need 1 sf of tiles

CLD Tiles I recommend you buy them with Don Sambroke or Second Skin

LINK 1

LINK 2

also buy at least 2 ropes of butyl LINK 3

Glue for MLV and heavy duty velcro in LINK 4

You can also buy 1/4" ccfoam from Don in LINK 5

now all these is what you need for deadening your car for road noise, and rattles...

but for example the doors you will need more mass from any kind of MAT (don't use CLD Tiles too expensive), you can buy any one you like, I got mine from Rick at RAAMAT it's cheap and works OK, LINK 6

so lets say you have 100 sf of area to work with (I did 100 so you can come up with a percentage)

100 sf of MLV (this one you can buy cheap here LINK 7 or buy from Don or Second skin, but it's a little bit more expensive.

100 sf of ccfoam, get 50sf of 1/8" and 50sf of 1/4" Don sells you the best one in this class, Second Skin is a little bit more expensive. You can also get this stuff from Rick but it's very thin but sticks like a steaker LINK 9

25 sf of CLD Tiles from LINK 1

and 50 sf of any MAT you like, in my case from RAAMAT ** I was just checking with raamaudio and they don't carry any more the cheap stuff, try to call Rick and ask him if he still carries the old RAAMmat I . the new stuff is here LINK 8

or if you want to get all at once and save on shipping call Don Sambroke and tell him my name (Derick Veliz) [I did this at the beginning then I needed some extra stuff and I got it at LINK 7



D.
Nice job on your car!!!

Been following your posts and noticed that you have not used any 3M Thinsulate™ Acoustic that's also available from Don.

Any particular reason?

Thanks
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:59 AM   #2
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Nice job on your car!!!

Been following your posts and noticed that you have not used any 3M Thinsulate™ Acoustic that's also available from Don.

Any particular reason?

Thanks
It just came into the market, back then Don recommended me to use a heat barrier (see below) the 3M Thinsulate Acoustic is brand new and works as a combination of a heat barrier plus some CCFoam, that reflects heat and absorbs noise... but it's not a "sound barrier" it self Like MLV!

I used the a radiant barrier most of the floor where the exhaust is under to protect the amps from heat and under the dashboard to protect the HU.


See POST # 263 and 295 for more information below...

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I was describing to my wife all the different layers of sound deadening material you're doing and she said it sounds like you're creating a mobil sensory deprivation chamber!
I wish! but sounds COOL ..............




and Talking about layers I just added one MORE!

Radiant Barrier

I'm putting this along the center channel and other areas after applying CLD Tiles and before CCF adn MLV, I've driving with no center console, bare metal and I can tell it gets HOT! the other day I had a Hershey chocolate about 4 inches above, and it melted!

I guess this heat going inside the cabin it's good in winter, but not good in summer, any way one more barrier to make the noisy work harder!



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I'm actually contemplating foregoing any mat on the firewall, and just doing MLV alone.
40sq ft of MLV Then around 25sq ft of mat, and 4 CLD's. that would really cut my costs. I'd be down to around $150, before I was over $200.


OEM deadening material





Taking a break!




Clean!





2 CLD Tiles.





Some of that Radiant heat insulator...




1/4" CCF and ready for MLV





With no MLV to work last night I started playing around with the amps, the 3rd amp will be here soon, maybe I'll put it under the passengers seat? or in line with these 2. I didn't realize they where so big and heavy

"I just added this picture as a reference for the MLV layer on top:"










I would use it now, I don't see why not?

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Nice job on your car!!!

Thank you!

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Thanks for the clarification on Thinsulate.

Will continue to follow the development of your car
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