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33OH · 03-21-2012, 11:51 AM

Will, my personal opinion. And no offense meant.

This is just my personal opinion.............

Depending on which suspension you use and how it is setup, a 16x7 with 205/50 or 205/55 is very likely going to rub in the front (especially with a 38mm offset)
205/45/16 will not rub with 16x7 +38 offset

On my vehicle I'm using quite stiff coilovers with lots of drop(about 3") / a 16x7 wheel in +40mm offset with 195/50/16's and it rubs when its not even moving (not quite but almost)
You're lowered 3", which is why it is rubbing. Your most likely only rubbing on fender liners as well, not on the fenders.

Personally I'm more concerned with function and I'm switching to 15x6.5 +42 (ideally +45 if I could find it) and either a 195/50/ 15 or a 195/55/15. I figure that either of these should ensure basically zero contact with anything (fender liners, fenders etc....)
Correct, these are super conservative sizes.)

All of that to say, that even though a 16 looks better on our cars (I think), personally I'm going with 15's to guarantee zero rubbing no matter how I set the car up.
The diameter of the rim plays no difference in overall size, your tire size is the only thing that determines this. That is why you use lower profile tires when moving up wheel sizes.

As far was wheels are concerned, my belief is that with as little power as we have its best to get the lightest possible wheels. ie: with 10lb wheels you'll instantly feel the difference from stock. A difference not only in acceleration but also in turning and stopping.
Correct.

When suspension is concerned, again its my personal believe that alot can be gained by lowering the centre of gravity, especially if you don't compromise suspension travel at the same time. Not all coilovers can do this, so its something to consider when you shop around.
Agree, but if you lower too much (such as your 3" drop), it will have negative side effects.

My Advice:

-Function over form = lightweight 15's (ideally 6.5" wide) with either a 195/50 (slightly smaller diameter than stock) or a 195/55 (almost identical diameter to stock)
Lightweight 15's or 16's, 205/50/15 or 205/45/16, and at least 7" wide for spirited driving. Offset 35 and up will not rub.

This will be a great setup for aggressive street driving.

However if you want more grip / won't be lowering it alot / don't mind sacrificing the fender liners.......then go to a 15x7 (alot cheaper and easier to find) with a 205/50/15
15x7 with a decent offset (35+) will not rub with 205/50/15

Just remember that 205 is only 10mm wider than 195 (10mm isn't alot, and to me personally its not worth the rub)
It's 10mm wider, but it's only 5mm wider towards the fender. You can run 205mm tires without rubbing if your wheels are proper offset.

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03-21-2012, 11:51 AM	#5
33OH Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dover, Ohio Posts: 7,606	Will, my personal opinion. And no offense meant. This is just my personal opinion............. Depending on which suspension you use and how it is setup, a 16x7 with 205/50 or 205/55 is very likely going to rub in the front (especially with a 38mm offset) 205/45/16 will not rub with 16x7 +38 offset On my vehicle I'm using quite stiff coilovers with lots of drop(about 3") / a 16x7 wheel in +40mm offset with 195/50/16's and it rubs when its not even moving (not quite but almost) You're lowered 3", which is why it is rubbing. Your most likely only rubbing on fender liners as well, not on the fenders. Personally I'm more concerned with function and I'm switching to 15x6.5 +42 (ideally +45 if I could find it) and either a 195/50/ 15 or a 195/55/15. I figure that either of these should ensure basically zero contact with anything (fender liners, fenders etc....) Correct, these are super conservative sizes.) All of that to say, that even though a 16 looks better on our cars (I think), personally I'm going with 15's to guarantee zero rubbing no matter how I set the car up. The diameter of the rim plays no difference in overall size, your tire size is the only thing that determines this. That is why you use lower profile tires when moving up wheel sizes. As far was wheels are concerned, my belief is that with as little power as we have its best to get the lightest possible wheels. ie: with 10lb wheels you'll instantly feel the difference from stock. A difference not only in acceleration but also in turning and stopping. Correct. When suspension is concerned, again its my personal believe that alot can be gained by lowering the centre of gravity, especially if you don't compromise suspension travel at the same time. Not all coilovers can do this, so its something to consider when you shop around. Agree, but if you lower too much (such as your 3" drop), it will have negative side effects. My Advice: -Function over form = lightweight 15's (ideally 6.5" wide) with either a 195/50 (slightly smaller diameter than stock) or a 195/55 (almost identical diameter to stock) Lightweight 15's or 16's, 205/50/15 or 205/45/16, and at least 7" wide for spirited driving. Offset 35 and up will not rub. This will be a great setup for aggressive street driving. However if you want more grip / won't be lowering it alot / don't mind sacrificing the fender liners.......then go to a 15x7 (alot cheaper and easier to find) with a 205/50/15 15x7 with a decent offset (35+) will not rub with 205/50/15 Just remember that 205 is only 10mm wider than 195 (10mm isn't alot, and to me personally its not worth the rub) It's 10mm wider, but it's only 5mm wider towards the fender. You can run 205mm tires without rubbing if your wheels are proper offset.