Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[TOLMACH]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I was going to suggest the sub I'm using as a temp solution, but you said less intensity...




^Yes there's a gap. The slope is at 24dB versus the sub's 36dB.








^And yet another gap. The tweeters are at a 6dB slope.

3.15 khz 1st order for tweeters seems crazily low.. there is also a good chance that you will burn them.. if you want to use the 6db slope my wild guess will be at least 6-6.5 khz (one octave higher)

why such a low (considering slope) crossover point in a 3 way system?

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

3.15 khz 1st order for tweeters seems crazily low.. there is also a good chance that you will burn them..

Sqcomp's tweeters have a Frequency Range = Fs (580 Hz) – 40,000 Hz, +/- 3 dB

they won't burn...


D.

[TOLMACH]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Sqcomp's tweeters have a Frequency Range = Fs (580 Hz) – 40,000 Hz, +/- 3 dB

they won't burn...


D.

which means you should be crossing your tweeters at at least 1800 Hz @12db slope .. the producer recommends 1800 hz @4 order

I also just learned that HA has passive networks (which look pretty awesome) and it seems that they cross the tweeter at around 3500 hz 12 db (5.6 mF capacitor used paired with some inductance)

http://store.12velectronics.com/prod...Crossover.html

my point is different anyways - just curious why such a low x-over point?

[sqcomp]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

which means you should be crossing your tweeters at at least 1800 Hz @12db slope .. the producer recommends 1800 hz @4 order

I also just learned that HA has passive networks (which look pretty awesome) and it seems that they cross the tweeter at around 3500 hz 12 db (5.6 mF capacitor used paired with some inductance)

http://store.12velectronics.com/prod...Crossover.html

my point is different anyways - just curious why such a low x-over point?

I'm now at 3.15 kHz at a 6dB on the right and a 36dB on the left tweeter. I'm playing with response, soundstage, and phasing. I wish it was as simple as just slapping a prefabbed passive crossover on a set of speakers. It's just not. I'm a pillar man, always have been. I'm trying to get the stage width SERIOUSLY wide without sacrificing the center image. There is ALWAYS a give and take.

Before anyone trys to rake me over the coals, I had Scott Buwalda riding in the Yaris on Monday while on our way to dinner. I showed him the crossover points for all the speakers. He didn't have any issue with 3.15kHz at a 6. If the right kicks it, I'll let everyone know and get Scott to re-work the guts of the tweeter (since it is an L1Pro SE and not a mainline production R2 tweeter).