US Yaris to be imported from France ?

[why?]

Originally Posted by Billiam

So, some engineer on the Volt project didn't do all of his/her homework or some bean-counter decided that they could save 0.001 cents per car by making a wire a smaller gauge or the walls of the batteries thinner...who knows? But I guess to you it's all the hard working, blue collar guy's fault who assemble the pieces.

As for the union? You brought that up. I made a quick reference to it only after you made a comment about it. I never said or claimed to be a UAW supporter. It is, however, quite easy to place the blame on all that has been...is...and may be wrong in the future with the Big 3 on the UAW when you don't understand all of the facts.

With each one of your posts it becomes clearer that you have no concept of what it means to be a "blue collar" worker. It's one thing to be a realist...or even a bit negative. But you cross that line and come off as a cynic. And if there's one thing I've learned in my nearly 44 years in this world, it's the more cynical a person is the more people should take, with a grain of salt, what they say and think.

I am a proud, honest, hard-working, union-free, blue-collar, American worker who gives 100% in everything I do and have been with the same company for nearly 20 years. You can lump us into one not so flattering category all you want, but there are more of us out there than you realize. We are the middle class...the ones that fund the poor and protect the rich...we are glue that holds this nation together. Walk into my work place and tell these guys that they don't care about what they do and you'll probably find yourself missing some front teeth.

And you say you are not trying to be insulted. Of course you are. You are bending over backwards doing everything possible to pretend I am insulting you personally.

You are also doing everything to separate people into foolish categories. That is just dumb. People are not categories, they are individuals. Looking at people as anything but individuals is discrediting everything that makes them humans. This is the USA, there are zero classes. Everyone has the opportunity to succeed as much as they want to. That is how a high school drop out can be the richest person on the planet. That is why the majority of people earning multiple millions of dollars a year came from families that couldn't dream of having that much money. If you really want a class based society, please check out India, where you are still born into your specific class, and there is still almost nothing you can do to change your entire life. That is a class based society, as much as the government is trying to get everyone in the country to stop living by it. Not the USA.

You might not be in the union specifically, but it is obvious you have adopted that us vs them attitude that union loyalists everywhere love. It is the same type of attitude that leads people to decide to attack the companies they work for and the people they work with for no real reason. It is that attitude that leads to intelligent people needing to call another department and wait a week to move a chair and a desk five feet across a room.

If by blue collar you are talking about people who choose to never see individuals, but to only see categories, than you are damn right I won't ever get that. Or if you mean people that pretend that where you are born means anything to where you will end up, I know that is flat out false.

People are people, we are all individuals. Accept everyone as their own person, not as some blank category in some supposed group.

[Billiam]

Originally Posted by why?

...You might not be in the union specifically, but it is obvious you have adopted that us vs them attitude that union loyalists everywhere love. It is the same type of attitude that leads people to decide to attack the companies they work for and the people they work with for no real reason...

Your entire post could not be further from the point I was trying to make. However, the above quote in particular stands out. I most certainly DO NOT have a "us vs. them" attitude. I am quite loyal to the company I have spent the last 20 years working for....and the company that has done an admiral job of taking care of me.

You are the one lumping people into categories by implying that the American worker, in general, is no good. You clearly are a cynical, bitter "individual" who has an awful lot to learn about life.