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Old 06-27-2012, 09:12 PM   #1
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I cringe when I hear someone mention 'creaks and rattles' re a car. I have yet to experience any with my Yaris, nor with any car I have ever owned that was built in Japan. I know 'creaks and rattles' when I hear them. All of the cars on my street are quiet and sound well built except one, a Chrysler Sebring. My neighbor across the street owns this offender. I can hear the creaks in that car every time he drives down the street when I'm home (once per day at least).He,of course, gets out of the car after parking it and those creaks are even worse than the previous ones. That car is a true POS. His wife has a rather quiet Civic sedan. They are the only neighbors I ever hear arguing. I know I'd be upset if I had to drive that POS Sebring.
Sorry Billiam, mrpj's experience may be anecdotal, but it is first hand and delivered in a measured and thoughtful tone. I'm pretty skeptical, but I'd take mrpj's experience over assurances from Toyota until those assurances have been proven to be correct over time in those new circumstances.
You would be surprised at how many creaks and rattles are a result of poor design and/or engineering. For the most part interior components only fit together one way. There is almost no adjustment with these pieces.

Your Yaris is creak-free because it was engineerined well with parts that fit together as they were designed too. Not how it was assemebled.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:19 AM   #2
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You would be surprised at how many creaks and rattles are a result of poor design and/or engineering. For the most part interior components only fit together one way. There is almost no adjustment with these pieces.

Your Yaris is creak-free because it was engineering well with parts that fit together as they were designed too. Not how it was assemebled.
^This. I work for an automotive supplier and we spend tens (hundreds?) of thousands of dollars on "creaks and rattles" issues before a part ever hits production. Assembly is rarely to blame: it's either poorly designed or was made from materials that are prone to squeak.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:03 PM   #3
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^This. I work for an automotive supplier and we spend tens (hundreds?) of thousands of dollars on "creaks and rattles" issues before a part ever hits production. Assembly is rarely to blame: it's either poorly designed or was made from materials that are prone to squeak.
If assembly has no bearing on creaks/rattles/squeaks, and many U.S. market customers with Yari built in Japan don't experience such annoyances, then what would account for MRPJ having such an experience with his French built Yaris? A difference re materials?
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:39 PM   #4
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You would be surprised at how many creaks and rattles are a result of poor design and/or engineering. For the most part interior components only fit together one way. There is almost no adjustment with these pieces.

Your Yaris is creak-free because it was engineering well with parts that fit together as they were designed too. Not how it was assemebled.
I am, as others have stated they are, open to a French built Yaris proving itself to be the equal of the current U.S. spec Yaris over time. I just don't think that will happen. I think it will prove to be inferior. I hope I am wrong.
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