Can Toyota Still Manage to Build an Awful Car? - LA Times Article

[Pavel Olavich]

Originally Posted by Spades

well, for a 11k dollar car the handling is pretty good. go drive a versa or aveo and get back to me.

besides, maybe you dont know how to drive it? I have lots of fun on twisty roads with it, and even on the skidpad results it is not half bad. I dont consider a hairpin corner taken at the appropriate speed unless at least 3 tires are spinning. but hey, if you have owned much better cars with much better handling, why oh why did you buy a 11k dollar gas miser car?

Forget about twisty roads and such....just on the freeway doing 70 mph, it is bouncy, the steering is a tad wandering, and the handling is NOT remarkable, not even when comparing like cars from any and all competitors. I'm not saying it is bad....just that the handling is not great, nor remarkable, just okay. I knew this before I bought the 2007 Yaris LB, but I was ok with it because my demands of this car are not sportcar handling...rather high MPG, high reliability, and low maint costs, so I don't complain.

As for twisties, canyon carving driving, it's handling is BS....and I know how to drive twisties by car and sport bike. The Yaris is a great car, perhaps the best in it's class, but lets not make it more then it is.

[Pars]

Originally Posted by Pavel Olavich

Forget about twisty roads and such....just on the freeway doing 70 mph, it is bouncy, the steering is a tad wandering, and the handling is NOT remarkable, not even when comparing like cars from any and all competitors. I'm not saying it is bad....just that the handling is not great, nor remarkable, just okay. I knew this before I bought the 2007 Yaris LB, but I was ok with it because my demands of this car are not sportcar handling...rather high MPG, high reliability, and low maint costs, so I don't complain.

As for twisties, canyon carving driving, it's handling is BS....and I know how to drive twisties by car and sport bike. The Yaris is a great car, perhaps the best in it's class, but lets not make it more then it is.

I tend to zip around at 100mph on the dinky 175/65/14 tire (I got 45,000km on them) and It's not bad. I've yet to encounter a situation where the steering got upset from bouncy roads. A similarly priced but much bigger Cobolt would feel more stable at 100mph, but you'd be handicapped by the Cobolt's dumbed down steering response when it comes time to toss the car around. That being said, I'm more used to the responsiveness that comes with low profile tires and good springs/shock and I'm looking forward to getting rid of the Yaris's mushy tires for low profile summers.

If you got a good set of knee pads and a sport Bike, any car (including most sport cars) would be BS in comparison.

[deebrown]

For those of you upset over the LA Times review, click on the following link (or copy and paste it) to read a very positive review.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-13232,00.html

[hystria]

The price of a Yaris is the price of quality pieces and quality conception. That's why it offers so little while being "so expensive". It is build to be a trouble free car, the only one and probably the last such a car here in North America