Brake upgrades

[largeorangefont]

Get a JDM rear torsion beam with disks on it. That is about it currently.

[Moose]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

Get a JDM rear torsion beam with disks on it. That is about it currently.

That's what I was thinking. For mostly daily driving, though, there are other ways to drastically improve braking without dumping $1000 into a new rear end.

For instance:
-upgraded pads for the front brakes
-stainless steel brake lines (the best upgrade, IMO)
-higher temperature brake fluid (I've had great results from Motul)
-upgraded master cylinder (back to that money thing, though)

Remember, you may actually lose braking power (and thus, take longer to stop) by switching to rear disc brakes- vehicles like ours do not have EBD, and the "old style" proportioning valves are set up for drums- you can get around this by swapping out the master cylinder and lines, as well- but, oh the $$$ you'll be spending! Drums are lighter, too, so there's less unsprung weight.

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by Moose

That's what I was thinking. For mostly daily driving, though, there are other ways to drastically improve braking without dumping $1000 into a new rear end.

For instance:
-upgraded pads for the front brakes
-stainless steel brake lines (the best upgrade, IMO)
-higher temperature brake fluid (I've had great results from Motul)
-upgraded master cylinder (back to that money thing, though)

Remember, you may actually lose braking power (and thus, take longer to stop) by switching to rear disc brakes- vehicles like ours do not have EBD, and the "old style" proportioning valves are set up for drums- you can get around this by swapping out the master cylinder and lines, as well- but, oh the $$$ you'll be spending! Drums are lighter, too, so there's less unsprung weight.

Agreed, except you forgot the most important braking mod. Better tires :)

I would do tires, then SS lines and fluid, and after that better pads if you need them.

The problem is there are no SS lines available yet. I will get them the day they come to market though.

The proportioning may be different with the rear disk setup (no idea if it is or not), so it may require the master cylinder to be swapped out as well to make it "correct". since the vas majority are non ABS it may be less critical, but still should not be overlooked.

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

Agreed, except you forgot the most important braking mod. Better tires :)

I would do tires, then SS lines and fluid, and after that better pads if you need them.

The problem is there are no SS lines available yet. I will get them the day they come to market though.

The proportioning may be different with the rear disk setup (no idea if it is or not), so it may require the master cylinder to be swapped out as well to make it "correct". since the vas majority are non ABS it may be less critical, but still should not be overlooked.

Um, why change the master cylinder? there are these new things they have been using since god knows why called proportioning valves. All we would have to do is change that to get the proportioning, I am sure that would be a lot cheeper to get ahold of than a whole set up off a JDM Vitz

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

Um, why change the master cylinder? there are these new things they have been using since god knows why called proportioning valves. All we would have to do is change that to get the proportioning, I am sure that would be a lot cheeper to get ahold of than a whole set up off a JDM Vitz

Read Moose's post at the top of the thread. He is right.

I'm not sure if the rear disc cars use a different master cylinder. If they do there is probably a reason why. Running out of fluid to actuate your brakes is not something you want to do.

[Terrorize]

Hmm..my Yaris sedan has EBD apparently...how can i tell???
Up here in Canada..it was optional...but the package i chose supposedly has it...

Originally Posted by Moose

That's what I was thinking. For mostly daily driving, though, there are other ways to drastically improve braking without dumping $1000 into a new rear end.

For instance:
-upgraded pads for the front brakes
-stainless steel brake lines (the best upgrade, IMO)
-higher temperature brake fluid (I've had great results from Motul)
-upgraded master cylinder (back to that money thing, though)

Remember, you may actually lose braking power (and thus, take longer to stop) by switching to rear disc brakes- vehicles like ours do not have EBD, and the "old style" proportioning valves are set up for drums- you can get around this by swapping out the master cylinder and lines, as well- but, oh the $$$ you'll be spending! Drums are lighter, too, so there's less unsprung weight.