Look Out Toyota, Here Comes The Good Enough Chinese Car

[caineroad]

Trust me... With proper quality control experts from overseas, Chinese cars will be no different than other countries currently producing cars.

Look at the products made in China now, how the iPhone is built? Their rockets and spaceships? Come on man, we all know that's the future. China will use a lot of money to hire experts from overseas to cover their weaknesses.

I bet in 10 years time, Chinese cars will be just like Koreans (KIA and Hyundai), you will see it every where. But they will not win over the Germans that's for sure.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by caineroad

. But they will not win over the Germans that's for sure.

Germans get to drive VWs and they dont like Chinese?

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Germans get to drive VWs and they dont like Chinese?

Caineroad's comment made me laugh as well. I used to belong to a German cultural group (a social group) and spent tons of time with German nationals who are now U.S. citizens. Lets just say the German people are unique. Germans don't specifically dislike the Chinese, they are just very precise and don't like things being done cheaply (in a less than optimal quality sense....at least as they perceive quality).

[tk1971]

Or... just get a Nissan Versa Sedan now:

From Edmunds:

$10,990 MSRP (base model with 5-spd) + $780 Destination Fee = $11,770

That's about $12k - $13k out the door with sales tax and $200 licensing fees.

I'd feel safer in a Versa than a Smart or even a Panda.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by tk1971

Or... just get a Nissan Versa Sedan now:

From Edmunds:

$10,990 MSRP (base model with 5-spd) + $780 Destination Fee = $11,770

That's about $12k - $13k out the door with sales tax and $200 licensing fees.

I'd feel safer in a Versa than a Smart or even a Panda.

^^^^^ This

[bronsin]

Hmm interesting.

Cheapest Versa at the local dealer is over $16,000 though....

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Hmm interesting.

Cheapest Versa at the local dealer is over $16,000 though....

My brother was looking at a $13,000 Versa sedan, he bought the $16,000 hatchback instead.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Hmm interesting.

Cheapest Versa at the local dealer is over $16,000 though....

You should also look at the inventory (can look online) of a dealership that has a larger inventory. Such a dealership might not be so 'top heavy' with heavily optioned cars.

[tk1971]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Hmm interesting.

Cheapest Versa at the local dealer is over $16,000 though....

My mom bought one in April with a CVT (she can't drive stick) for exactly $14,543 out the door. The price of the CVT model before tax/license was $13,250.

Being able to drive stick gets the same car for the $11k base price.

Of course, my mom promptly (2 weeks after getting it) sends the car into a fence, flipping it and totaling the car.




She blamed sudden unintended acceleration. The insurance found nothing wrong with the car.

My mom has more than 3 decades of driving experience with only 2 minor fender benders.

The insurance coughed up most of the cost of the car, which she promptly took to a Toyota dealer and got a '11 certified pre-owned Yaris sedan (no more new sedans, so she had to get used).

Don't know what happened, and I don't think anyone will ever know... but if I had to get a $11k car, I'd still consider the Versa. It's surprisingly roomy.

[Kioshi]

Wouldnt ever buy a Chinese made car.

Nothing from them lasts as good as German, USA, or Japan. <-- yes, that sounds very ignorant, but its been the truth for some time now.

They haven't got better in terms of products from China, bad fitment, etc...so dont think it will change in the next 10 years to come.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Kioshi

Wouldnt ever buy a Chinese made car.

Nothing from them lasts as good as German, USA, or Japan. <-- yes, that sounds very ignorant, but its been the truth for some time now.

They haven't got better in terms of products from China, bad fitment, etc...so dont think it will change in the next 10 years to come.

I don't think it sounds ignorant. I agree.....but at some point (20 years?) China may come close.

[nookandcrannycar]

A few minutes ago I was writing a second post to that hilarious nonsense thread that two other members had made hilarious 'attempt to decipher' posts to. My first post had already posted. I clicked submit reply on the second post and got an invalid thread reply. I returned to that section and the entire thread was gone!....no 'moved' notification. Why? The replies were hilarious.

[junorico24]

As long as it passes test, it's good to go. Just give me the goodies; electric windows, remote keyless entry, abs, electric power steering, airbags all that stuff.They have one dealer near my house. I might give it a test drive and report back.They have Chery J3 (refer picture bottom) on sale.It's the size of a Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic and priced as a base 3-door Toyota Yaris.Which is about $14, 999 brand new.I have seen the interior.Very basic i must say.



But why the name CHERY? boggles the mind.

[caineroad]

Germans like Chinese.

[bentjazz]

I'm forced to buy too much Chinese stuff, as is. For pure ideological reasons alone, I'd never buy a Chinese car. Ever. That combined with the fact that the quality will most likely suck.....no thanks. I'm sure the political left in this country will jump at the opportunity to assist China in its ascendency to Super Power status, because we all know about their respective love affair with government control over the individual. But me, I value the individual over all else and will therefore stick with my Yaris and when my Yaris dies, I'll get another Japanese car.....

[DebbyM46227]

Originally Posted by bentjazz

I'm forced to buy too much Chinese stuff, as is. For pure ideological reasons alone, I'd never buy a Chinese car. Ever. That combined with the fact that the quality will most likely suck.....no thanks. I'm sure the political left in this country will jump at the opportunity to assist China in its ascendency to Super Power status, because we all know about their respective love affair with government control over the individual. But me, I value the individual over all else and will therefore stick with my Yaris and when my Yaris dies, I'll get another Japanese car.....

ITA with you on everything you stated! I guess it's our Midwestern values kickin' in.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

ITA with you on everything you stated! I guess it's our Midwestern values kickin' in.

A few years ago I was at a Starbucks in a major metro in California. I ended up getting in an hours long conversation with the guy sitting next to me. Interesting guy. He was from Kenya and had come to UC Berkeley to study. He was probably in his late 20's and is a Software Engineer. He was working at Oracle at that time. While studying, he met a fellow student who had come to UC Berkeley from Texas. Eventually, she wanted to get married and he didn't. She came back to Texas and met and married someone here. He looks upon her as the one that got away. His parents live in Kenya and want him to come back to Kenya and find a nice Kenyan girl to marry. He told me he might do that, or he might stay here in the U.S. He said if he stays here, he would never marry a woman raised on either coast. He said he would only marry a Midwestern girl!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bentjazz

I'm forced to buy too much Chinese stuff, as is. For pure ideological reasons alone, I'd never buy a Chinese car. Ever. That combined with the fact that the quality will most likely suck.....no thanks. I'm sure the political left in this country will jump at the opportunity to assist China in its ascendency to Super Power status, because we all know about their respective love affair with government control over the individual. But me, I value the individual over all else and will therefore stick with my Yaris and when my Yaris dies, I'll get another Japanese car.....

You sir, deserve a parade!