Ripped off at the pump ?

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by TPA5

even if we could get even a fraction of the population to protest and stop buying gas even for a week,.

YES YES YES!!!

War, its war!

Good or bad thats what Id like to see people doing.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by Damo

Right now in Western Australia Im paying near-on $1.50 per litre.
To you Americans, thats around $5.68 per gallon.

Earlier this week here in Montreal our price for regular gas jumped from $1.40 a liter to $1.53 a liter overnight.. Price has since moderated and they are now only gouging us $1.48 a liter
Driving my Yaris and filling it once a month its not a major hit to the wallet but i gotta wonder about those with huge gas guzzling pickups and SUV's.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Well if your commute takes you on a regular basis into the Swamps of Jersey dont let the attendent scare you off!

LOL. In 2009 I pulled into a gas station on RT 206 in Bedminster just West of I-287. I could see the attendant in the booth an HE WAS ASLEEP STANDING UP! I didn't want to drive up and rap on the window to wake him up because I didn't want him to get scared and I think I might be doing something other than trying to get his attention. I pulled up to the nearest pump, which happened to be the farthest away from the booth. I started filling the tank of my Yaris and about two thirds of the way through I heard the sound of shoes fast approaching me from behind. The parents of my best friend growing up in California live nearby, so I know it is a safe area. I turned around and it was the attendant.......to take over finishing the fill up.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

I'm perfectly fine with that. Especially if four million (random high number)\ other people who never heard of me moved closer to work, and we became less dependent on foreign oil.

We are 30% less dependent on foreign oil than we were four years ago.

No thanks to my black Hummer-driving, no-turn-signals, speed-on-my-street, take-up-two-parking-space neighbors.

I re people like your neighbors as well. There seem to be even more of them per capita in the Houston area. My area seems to be the only part of the Houston metro where huge SUVs and trucks aren't out of control and one sees an abundance of Prii (Yes, in 2011 Toyota decided that the plural of Prius is Prii). Part of the reason for this MIGHT be that 58% of residents in my area were not born in Texas. I agree that driving less is the best and probably the most green way to help end our dependency on foreign oil, but there are other avenues/methods that will help. Given how many goods are trucked in this country, increasing the price of gas will hurt some people re necessities who can ill afford that increase. I also doubt it would change the behavior of people like your neighbor.

[Kioshi]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

I have an unpopular view (I think). I think it should be HIGHER. Cost is the only incentive that will get people to change their purchasing and driving behavior.

For once, i agree w/ you. +1 for you

In other countries, gas prices are much higher than compared to here and Canada. Yes, i may still complain a little seeing gas prices go higher, but its the aggressive drivers who i usually see on freeway and laugh at.......poor sap in the BMW cutting people off, must be pissed he had to pay $90+ to refill

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Kioshi

For once, i agree w/ you. +1 for you

In other countries, gas prices are much higher than compared to here and Canada. Yes, i may still complain a little seeing gas prices go higher, but its the aggressive drivers who i usually see on freeway and laugh at.......poor sap in the BMW cutting people off, must be pissed he had to pay $90+ to refill

If such prices were implemented this would drive up the cost of some dietary staples, as such goods are often trucked to their destinatiosns. What would you say to the person who is struggling to afford those staples?.....Or is that what food stamps are for.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Kioshi

For once, i agree w/ you. +1 for you

In other countries, gas prices are much higher than compared to here and Canada. Yes, i may still complain a little seeing gas prices go higher, but its the aggressive drivers who i usually see on freeway and laugh at.......poor sap in the BMW cutting people off, must be pissed he had to pay $90+ to refill

I remember when you made that 'BMW cutting people off' post. I doubt that guy, nor Cali Yaris' neighbors, care too much about what they are paying for gas

[Kioshi]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

I remember when you made that 'BMW cutting people off' post. I doubt that guy, nor Cali Yaris' neighbors, care too much about what they are paying for gas

I'm sure they do, they dont live in Hollywood or anything, just in regular suburban neighborhoods. People around me are cheap, even if they have the money they will complain about it...take my word for it, seriously.

If gas prices went up, sure the prices of goods would go up naturally, but it would force people to rethink how they drive, how they spend, etc...

People want to go waste $650+ on a new iPhone when they can save that money for something more beneficial..imo, start saving/throw in CD account, etc.

Force is what people need in this country....kind of like how stores are forcing people in a way to bring their own shopping bag.....believe me, I'm no hippie haha, I'm wasteful, just giving methods that have worked well for other countries compared to the USA.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Kioshi

I'm sure they do, they dont live in Hollywood or anything, just in regular suburban neighborhoods. People around me are cheap, even if they have the money they will complain about it...take my word for it, seriously.

If gas prices went up, sure the prices of goods would go up naturally, but it would force people to rethink how they drive, how they spend, etc...

People want to go waste $650+ on a new iPhone when they can save that money for something more beneficial..imo, start saving/throw in CD account, etc.

Force is what people need in this country....kind of like how stores are forcing people in a way to bring their own shopping bag.....believe me, I'm no hippie haha, I'm wasteful, just giving methods that have worked well for other countries compared to the USA.

I added the 'too much' because I don't think they'd care enough to change their behavior.

I've spent quite a bit of time in Fremont, and I agree with you that there are quite a few people there who spend money on silly things. I also agree with you that there are a lot of people there who have money, but are cheap, and like to complain. The impression I get from patronizing businesses there is that many of these owners and clerks are tired of dealing with such people. Your description of these people made me LOL.

If you rent, there are few places (in the U.S.) where a place to stay can be cheaper relative to how high the incomes are than Fremont. People there can "rethink how they drive, how they spend, etc." as you point out. People even in "regular suburban neighborhoods". Fremont, for a few years, was the safest city in the U.S. with a population over 200,000 people. Nearby San Jose has the highest median household income of any large city in the U.S., and the median household income in Fremont is higher than it is in San Jose........Now, get on a plane and fly to Jackson, MS and spend some time South of I-20 or fly to New Orleans and spend some time almost anywhere in the 9th Ward (New Orleans East, Lower 9th, etc) or some other similar parts of New Orleans and tell me that more than a relative handful of those citizens can "rethink how they drive, how they spend, etc.". They can't. For the ones who have cars, the extra cost of that more expensive gas could push them over the edge. People need to make their own way but, IMO, they don't need policies in place that are going to make it harder for them.

P.S. Someone distracted me yesterday while I was finishing up this reply and I neglected to make the point, specifically, that I was trying to make by bringing up people in parts of Jackson and New Orleans. I also made this point in a couple of previous posts. Namely, that so many goods (including staples like food,etc.) are trucked in this country that the cost of those staples will rise along with the intentional rise in gas prices and effect all of those vulnerable people in Jackson, New Orleans, and other places (not just the ones with cars who buy gas directly).