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fnkngrv · 10-07-2012, 09:09 PM

^ exactly...it is a weird and unexplainable situation and no one makes the people held accountable as they should. When the gas started its hike the fall of 08 because of a storm coming there was a local station that actually hit 8 bucks a gallon and they did it to actually keep the chaos away from their establishment. So has there been any indication of the pricing dropping again anytime soon?

nookandcrannycar · 10-07-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fnkngrv

^ exactly...it is a weird and unexplainable situation and no one makes the people held accountable as they should. When the gas started its hike the fall of 08 because of a storm coming there was a local station that actually hit 8 bucks a gallon and they did it to actually keep the chaos away from their establishment. So has there been any indication of the pricing dropping again anytime soon?

In 2009 31 states had anti gouging laws, including California. In most of these states, including California, the laws are so specifically drawn that hardly any companies ever get investigated or prosecuted. In 2005 only 50 cases in the entire state of California were even investigated....and the number of those that were prosecuted....zero.

mazilla · 10-07-2012, 10:41 PM

We have plenty of fuel, it's not the right "blend" for this time of year. Plain and simple we're suffering the effects of the nanny state and all the (expletives deleted) that vote for the politicians that put these types of shit regulations on the books...."summer blend" and "winter blend"...morons.

nookandcrannycar · 10-08-2012, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mazilla

We have plenty of fuel, it's not the right "blend" for this time of year. Plain and simple we're suffering the effects of the nanny state and all the (expletives deleted) that vote for the politicians that put these types of shit regulations on the books...."summer blend" and "winter blend"...morons.

Moonbeam must have been channeling the thoughts of pissed off residents such as yourself. He ordered that production of Winter blend can begin immediately, instead of on October 31st

nookandcrannycar · 10-08-2012, 01:48 PM

^^^^^ I like referring to him by his old nickname beacause I can't believe the citizens of California elected him again. I admit Meg Whitman = terrible alternative, but she still would have been better than a second go round with Moonbeam.

nookandcrannycar · 10-10-2012, 03:26 PM

Hershey recently posted a link to the Mpg-O-Matic sight he watches re the Hyundai Veloster Turbo. While I was looking at that, I noticed an in site link entitled Gas Prices Explained (posted on 10-5-12). They are talking about long term trends and don't mention regional factors within the U.S. My first thought (even before the Exxon net profit vs Apple analogy) was that you need oil to make gas and oil is a commodity and it is also a commodity that has its base price in U.S. Dollars...so if you effectively have 'additional' dollars (with QE) then that should make the price of gas go up. I didn't bring this up, because I didn't have any supply figures at hand and I didn't know if a drop in U.S. demand only would matter (it did in 2008, but that is a different animal because a drop in demand wasn't limited to the U.S.).

The article also shows that YW member Mazilla is right. It isn't an issue of supply either. There is a point I wish had been mentioned in the article (it may be on the video mentioned). The article mentions that as the dollar declines in value it takes more dollars to buy a gallon of gas, but it doesn't say why. The why is what I mentioned my first thought was (and by no means an original one) -- that you need oil to produce gas and oil is a worldwide commodity that is CURRENTLY priced in U.S. dollars (how many years longer this will be the case is a topic of debate).

The Mpg-O-Matic article (same as my previous post) doesn't put oil company 'greed' into the equation, because 'it' is irrelevant.

nookandcrannycar · 10-10-2012, 08:40 PM

I paid $3.359 Yesterday at a station in a part of Harris County that is fairly close to my house (this was the lowest price for that zip on Gas Buddy). I then checked 94941 in Marin County, CA and the cheapest station that allows use of a credit card (FF miles

) was 4.799...and the all cash station was only a little bit less. Wow. I also saw some price signs for stations in the city (SF) on a a national cable channel for 5.689 I think it was. Wow.

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mazilla advocatus diaboli Drives: 07 Yaris hatch Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Jacinto California Posts: 1,126	We have plenty of fuel, it's not the right "blend" for this time of year. Plain and simple we're suffering the effects of the nanny state and all the (expletives deleted) that vote for the politicians that put these types of shit regulations on the books...."summer blend" and "winter blend"...morons. __________________ -Type 07 FFL- My odometer 03/11 http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...a/2843ed85.jpg

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10-08-2012, 01:48 PM	#5
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	^^^^^ I like referring to him by his old nickname beacause I can't believe the citizens of California elected him again. I admit Meg Whitman = terrible alternative, but she still would have been better than a second go round with Moonbeam.

10-10-2012, 03:26 PM	#6
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	Hershey recently posted a link to the Mpg-O-Matic sight he watches re the Hyundai Veloster Turbo. While I was looking at that, I noticed an in site link entitled Gas Prices Explained (posted on 10-5-12). They are talking about long term trends and don't mention regional factors within the U.S. My first thought (even before the Exxon net profit vs Apple analogy) was that you need oil to make gas and oil is a commodity and it is also a commodity that has its base price in U.S. Dollars...so if you effectively have 'additional' dollars (with QE) then that should make the price of gas go up. I didn't bring this up, because I didn't have any supply figures at hand and I didn't know if a drop in U.S. demand only would matter (it did in 2008, but that is a different animal because a drop in demand wasn't limited to the U.S.). The article also shows that YW member Mazilla is right. It isn't an issue of supply either. There is a point I wish had been mentioned in the article (it may be on the video mentioned). The article mentions that as the dollar declines in value it takes more dollars to buy a gallon of gas, but it doesn't say why. The why is what I mentioned my first thought was (and by no means an original one) -- that you need oil to produce gas and oil is a worldwide commodity that is CURRENTLY priced in U.S. dollars (how many years longer this will be the case is a topic of debate). The Mpg-O-Matic article (same as my previous post) doesn't put oil company 'greed' into the equation, because 'it' is irrelevant.

10-10-2012, 08:40 PM	#7
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	I paid $3.359 Yesterday at a station in a part of Harris County that is fairly close to my house (this was the lowest price for that zip on Gas Buddy). I then checked 94941 in Marin County, CA and the cheapest station that allows use of a credit card (FF miles ) was 4.799...and the all cash station was only a little bit less. Wow. I also saw some price signs for stations in the city (SF) on a a national cable channel for 5.689 I think it was. Wow.