Be honest, if you could go back in time and do it again.....

[tooter]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Thanks. I really value your opinion, and I just wanted to know (re future purchase consideration) if your reason was mechanical or ergonomic (meaning something I would need to put on a con list during consideration).

I like everything except the body style. When I'm driving I can't see the outside of the car so it's all good.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by tooter

I like everything except the body style. When I'm driving I can't see the outside of the car so it's all good.

The 3rd Gen body style is growing on me (both 3-door and 5-door). The only 3 things I can think of (off the top of my head) that I really dislike about the 3rd Gen are: 1. The two tone seats (not an improvement over the arguably lamentable 'polka dot'...but both 2nd and 3rd Gen = easily corrected via aftermarket covers, or less easily by seat replacement) 2. Miss the 'old school' keyed latch (like mine) for the hatch (a relatively minor issue) 3. The dash (as previously mentioned on this thread....but I left out that this has nothing to do with the change re location of the instrumentation).

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

The 3rd Gen body style is growing on me (both 3-door and 5-door). The only 3 things I can think of (off the top of my head) that I really dislike about the 3rd Gen are: 1. The two tone seats (not an improvement over the arguably lamentable 'polka dot'...but both 2nd and 3rd Gen = easily corrected via aftermarket covers, or less easily by seat replacement) 2. Miss the 'old school' keyed latch (like mine) for the hatch (a relatively minor issue) 3. The dash (as previously mentioned on this thread....but I left out that this has nothing to do with the change re location of the instrumentation).

A few days ago I got behind a '13 Yaris at a stoplight. I noticed that it had what looked like a keyed hatch opener on the 'chrome strip' on the hatch. Is this new for the '13? I sat in a '12 at a Toyota dealership when they first came out, walked all around it, and I don't remember seeing this keyed opener. Is it on the '12 as well? I tried searching (text and pictures) and couldn't find any text that would answer my question and the pictures I've found don't allow for a clear enough zoom to answer the question.

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ Anyone? Is it on the '12 as well?

[matti]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

^^^^^ Anyone? Is it on the '12 as well?

Are you referring to being able to open the back hatch with a key? If so, yes the 2012 has this. I apologize if I misinterpreted you.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by matti

Are you referring to being able to open the back hatch with a key? If so, yes the 2012 has this. I apologize if I misinterpreted you.

Yes, that is what I wanted to know, . I missed seeing it when I looked at a 2012 when they first came out. I even mentioned it to the salesperson. Obviously he didn't know his own product well enough to point out that it does have this. I mentioned to him that I would miss that feature.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Yes, that is what I wanted to know, . I missed seeing it when I looked at a 2012 when they first came out. I even mentioned it to the salesperson. Obviously he didn't know his own product well enough to point out that it does have this. I mentioned to him that I would miss that feature.

After this post I saw another '13 (a 5-door SE automatic) and it DIDN'T have a keyed release on the hatch. I just looked at most of the '13 Yaris info on the Toyota site for the U.S., and the only conclusion that seems plausible to me is that because the SE has standard keyless entry, Toyota eliminates the keyed hatch entry on the SE. I don't like this at all. I want both, which one would have if they added an aftermarket keyless entry to an L model. What if you had a parking situation like in that SUV commercial where the guy crawls out of the back of the SUV and joins his family after parking in a tight space. What if an SE owner had that situation, returned to their SE, and the battery was dead? Wouldn't they be prevented from entering their SE until the person parked next to them returned to their car? I like the SE features (except the power windows) and it would be crazy to try to turn a non-SE into an SE....but...would it be possible to swap a non-SE keyed hatch apparatus into that area on an SE ?