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Old 02-04-2013, 09:05 PM   #1
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It didn't feel heavy enough to me to be solid so I'm going to hazard a guess that its hollow.

Got Z2 street tires on, I'm pretty sure there not faster than the Toyo's, but they have the best steering feel of any tire I've ever driven on, there so unbelievably sharp, definitely one of the best street tires I've ever driven on.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:26 PM   #2
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It didn't feel heavy enough to me to be solid so I'm going to hazard a guess that its hollow.

Got Z2 street tires on, I'm pretty sure there not faster than the Toyo's, but they have the best steering feel of any tire I've ever driven on, there so unbelievably sharp, definitely one of the best street tires I've ever driven on.
Thanks. I'm trying to decide if it's worth forgoing the front sway bar altogether or reinstall a smaller one.

What size ZIIs did you go with? I have a pair of 225/45/16 for the front. The Star Specs were already a great tire, can't wait to see how the ZIIs run. Pretty sure by now you've heard that the 195 Toyos aren't the only size that gets the good stuff all the way down either, according to Mr. Lugod.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:44 PM   #3
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Well I kept the front bar for body roll reasons, I also didn't like the way the car felt running without it. The steering is really really numb without a front bar but you can get power down a little bit better. After running without it I found it was just better to run more spring in the back and call it a day.


Both the 50 and 55 get it afaik, but Lugod's in my region so I can ask him next event. From what I heard from Andy Hollis it was just those 2 sizes.

I went with the 225/45/16.

I don't expect any of the newcomers to overshadow the R1R's, even though I hate that tire with a passion it does work really well.
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Thanks. I'm trying to decide if it's worth forgoing the front sway bar altogether or reinstall a smaller one.

What size ZIIs did you go with? I have a pair of 225/45/16 for the front. The Star Specs were already a great tire, can't wait to see how the ZIIs run. Pretty sure by now you've heard that the 195 Toyos aren't the only size that gets the good stuff all the way down either, according to Mr. Lugod.
Based on the OE 24.3mm spare bar I have I believe they are solid. It has no crimp marks on the ends, and based on its size it feels to heavy to be hollow. If you can find one there are 23.3mm OE bars out there, I have one on the HP car, came from an 07' sedan.
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Based on the OE 24.3mm spare bar I have I believe they are solid. It has no crimp marks on the ends, and based on its size it feels to heavy to be hollow. If you can find one there are 23.3mm OE bars out there, I have one on the HP car, came from an 07' sedan.
Thanks for the reply Jason. I'm pretty sure that I have at least a 25mm front bar on my car(SE) too so I'm trying to eliminate as much on-throttle wheelspin as possible.

Namer, what spring rates were you running at the time with no bar?
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