Shifting (A/T)

[Spades]

Originally Posted by daq421

You know, I tried to be cool about your hostile and generally crappy attitude.. but thats over now.. You're not bringing anything to the discussion, only flatly stating your opinion as truth and when thats challanged getting all pissy. No one is yelling and hollering except you. So, feel free to leave all of us "assholes" trying to talk about this to it and find another thread to get all butt hurt over. Mmmmmm'k? thanks.
Oh and by the way, So you killed a A/T when you were 16.. I'm guessing that was no more than 5 years ago. Further you neglect to share what type of car it was, the condition, and whether you only down shifted into turns. All this tells me is a another teenager killed a car.. Whoopie, name me 2 teens that did not kill at least one car in some way or another as they learned to drive, thats why it's called "learning".

-Peter

wow dude. I am not getting pissy, I admitted that I was apperantly talking out of my ass.

I was 16, that was about 7 years ago, it was a brand new 3spd auto chevrolet cavalier. I downshifted into turns, and also used the 1-2-D method when accelerating. So yes, I did learn. I learned not to do that, and I tried sharing my personal experience here.

Spare me your high and mighty attitude about how I am the one that is hostile....your first reply to this thread you used the F word. I responded after several replies of yours that I was wrong, that you were right, and that if your transmission took a dump on you that I would laugh, and I will laugh if I see a post about your transmission slipping. So, admitting that you are right and I am wrong to you, is my butt hurting?

I offered my opinion to this debate and all you could do is say "that it has never happened to you" and then get hostile when I point out my reasons for thinking this is hard on transmissions.

Also, read that manual that was posted in PDF form, it says "Never put your foot on the accelorator pedal while shifting"...its the thing noted by the little caution sign...thats what I was refering to...I mean, you guys are the ones pointing stuff out in the manual, I was just reading what it said.

So, to recap, I am not pissy, I have shared with you the information about my car, I have not yelled or hollered yet, and you need to read the manuals that you post that are a attempt to prove me wrong. Mmmmmm'k? thanks.

[deebrown]

Is the yaris automatic transmission an "autostick"? Or am I completely way off?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autosti...with_Autostick

[daq421]

Originally Posted by Spades

wow dude. I am not getting pissy, I admitted that I was apperantly talking out of my ass.

I was 16, that was about 7 years ago, it was a brand new 3spd auto chevrolet cavalier. I downshifted into turns, and also used the 1-2-D method when accelerating. So yes, I did learn. I learned not to do that, and I tried sharing my personal experience here.

Spare me your high and mighty attitude about how I am the one that is hostile....your first reply to this thread you used the F word. I responded after several replies of yours that I was wrong, that you were right, and that if your transmission took a dump on you that I would laugh, and I will laugh if I see a post about your transmission slipping. So, admitting that you are right and I am wrong to you, is my butt hurting?

I offered my opinion to this debate and all you could do is say "that it has never happened to you" and then get hostile when I point out my reasons for thinking this is hard on transmissions.

Also, read that manual that was posted in PDF form, it says "Never put your foot on the accelorator pedal while shifting"...its the thing noted by the little caution sign...thats what I was refering to...I mean, you guys are the ones pointing stuff out in the manual, I was just reading what it said.

So, to recap, I am not pissy, I have shared with you the information about my car, I have not yelled or hollered yet, and you need to read the manuals that you post that are a attempt to prove me wrong. Mmmmmm'k? thanks.

You have confused me with at least two other posters.. I started the thread but I've not used the f-word, I did not post the Manual, and saying you'll be happy if one of our cars breaks down is just plain hostile. Further, if any of your responses were in any way really an acknowledgment of error.. well then I'm sorry.. But it sure does not read that way, I've read them a number of times and every single read through they come off as sarcastic at best.

-Peter

[Spades]

Originally Posted by daq421

You have confused me with at least two other posters.. I started the thread but I've not used the f-word, I did not post the Manual, and saying you'll be happy if one of our cars breaks down is just plain hostile. Further, if any of your responses were in any way really an acknowledgment of error.. well then I'm sorry.. But it sure does not read that way, I've read them a number of times and every single read through they come off as sarcastic at best.

-Peter

Apologetic, sarcastic, close enough. I don't know that I would be happy that someones car broke down, I just said I would laugh if your car broke down for reasons mentioned above after I was greeted by such criticism.

I apperantly don't know what I am talking about, we will leave it at that. So far no one has given me a explanation about how my theory(about the sun gear failing from stress that downshifting causes) is wrong. All I have heard are people saying that I am wrong...I was just hoping for a post that someone would actually tell me WHY I am wrong, other than "I did it for years with no problem".

I dunno, this is turning into a flamefest, so this is my last post. My intent was not to anger anyone, simply to explain what I belive to be true...not a opinion, just the facts that were given to me by transmission shops. My input is not welcome, so, I will leave you with what I posted and call it good.

P.S. you can tell you down shifted to far if the engine RPM's go through the roof and the engine starts shutting on and off really quick...sounds something like "Vroom...slam...vrooom....slam" you will hear it pop back and forth really fast and loose power, it can sometimes cause the car to shudder...thats the computer shutting off the fuel or ignition to keep the engine from spinning too fast...go rev limiter!

EDIT: and my responce prior to that was aimed at more than one person Dag, I should have typed out seperate responces, I was aiming it at all the flamers, not just you. I was not paying attention to who was flaming me so I just put up a general post to all the haters.