manual vs. automatic

[roachslayer]

A quick update here:

I just did freeway driving and got 36 MPG no problem. So the fact that I get a measly 22-23 MPG in city is pretty poor (should be north of 27). Seems to me this thing does not know how to idle, sucks way too much gas at idle. Anyone else's experience agree?

Also note: the onboard computer on this is pretty darn accurate (checked it against my own calculation).

[07liftback]

Originally Posted by roachslayer

A quick update here:

I just did freeway driving and got 36 MPG no problem. So the fact that I get a measly 22-23 MPG in city is pretty poor (should be north of 27). Seems to me this thing does not know how to idle, sucks way too much gas at idle. Anyone else's experience agree?

Also note: the onboard computer on this is pretty darn accurate (checked it against my own calculation).

I usually average 30-38 mpg mixed depending on how much city or highway I drive. I replaced the spark plugs, pcv valve, air filter, changed transmission fluid and cleaned the MAF. I drive manual and shift at around 2-2.5k and use DFCO at every opportunity.

07 Yaris Hatchback Manual
zero mods
102k miles
Tires properly inflated
oil changed every 3-5k miles

I have the same experience as you and would be getting much worse mileage if I didn't use hypermiling techniques. I seriously have no idea how some people here can claim 60+ mpg. I'm finding it near impossible to break 40mpg. The only time I think I ever slightly broke 40mpg was during a 400 mile all freeway trip.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by 07liftback

...I seriously have no idea how some people here can claim 60+ mpg. I'm finding it near impossible to break 40mpg. The only time I think I ever slightly broke 40mpg was during a 400 mile all freeway trip.

I don't recall seeing anyone ever claim 60+ mpg. I've seen extreme hyper miler's get 46-48 mpg, with 50 mpg being somewhat of a holy grail.