2019 Yaris Hatchback dead in the US? The internet says yes!

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by dogsridewith

Maybe they kill the goofy name and hideous face at the same time, then the same basic vehicle is reborn as something new. (The hatchback feature generally is not falling out of favor in the overall car market)

the yaris has been the yaris since 1999 toyota ruined it by buying a mazda too and over equipping it for 18 grand while the yaris was the same for what 2013-2017 with a facelift and some standard kit in 2015 and then an entirely new TNGA at 2018 but still kept the same motor, the sedan was faster and was oh so crappier.

i tried to get a performance yaris here so they made GRMN teased to toyota execs (aka lied) about the GR series coming as TRD here pushed parts onto a phased out FRS and other things and basically neglected the idea of a performance hatch so wew lad. were done here.

[justanotherdrunk]

she lives on in Canada

nothing about US yet

https://www.auto123.com/en/news/2019...-canada/65412/

[toad]

Originally Posted by dogsridewith

Maybe they kill the goofy name and hideous face at the same time, then the same basic vehicle is reborn as something new. (The hatchback feature generally is not falling out of favor in the overall car market)

maybe since toyota took the mazda2 and slapped their logo on it mazda could take the yaris hatch and rebadge it?

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by toad

maybe since toyota took the mazda2 and slapped their logo on it mazda could take the yaris hatch and rebadge it?

awd and turbo, if they do that ill buy the bebadged mazda hatch and turn into a yaris

[DarkShadowFox]

hey lets revive it give it a turbo 200 plus HP power seats, rain sensing wipers heated seat warmers, standard navigation, android and apple auto awd as an option and drop it down to just two models LE and SE and add an SE edition for the 3 door

[stykerdk]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

http://www.subcompactculture.com/201...back-dead.html

Try watch som crash videos on youtube with that model, and you will realise its not made for markets were the buyers Think about safety.
The xp130 is just retested by euroncap and Got 5 Stars again, the xp150 would probably get 0-1 Star just like the Fiat Punto and panda.

There will come a new Yaris for Europe within the next 2 years, you might get lucky and get it over there.

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by stykerdk

Try watch som crash videos on youtube with that model, and you will realise its not made for markets were the buyers Think about safety.
The xp130 is just retested by euroncap and Got 5 Stars again, the xp150 would probably get 0-1 Star just like the Fiat Punto and panda.

There will come a new Yaris for Europe within the next 2 years, you might get lucky and get it over there.

no we wont because nobody bought it in the first place. the only people that buy the car are rental agencies.

[matti]

I think the Mexican-model Yaris looks cool.

[kimona]

This Yaris model looks similar in design to a Mazda CX3 or Honda HRV. Rather than call it a 5-door hatchback, just call it a subcompact SUV and it will probably be a real winner.

[toad]

i completely agree with you on calling it a 'subcompact suv'. not sure if the styling was intentional to take advantage of current market trends, but sometimes optics is all you need(even if there's no awd available). this is the 'look' people seem to be going for(not me- i like the old one better).

[Leegamer]

I actually kinda dig that, except for the grille

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by kimona

This Yaris model looks similar in design to a Mazda CX3 or Honda HRV. Rather than call it a 5-door hatchback, just call it a subcompact SUV and it will probably be a real winner.

looks like a matrix.

[Leegamer]

Originally Posted by DarkShadowFox

looks like a matrix.

Maybe that's why I like it. I was a big fan of the matrix. My wife has the pontiac version, the vibe...and it is such a great car. 240k miles on it currently.

[DarkShadowFox]

and there it goes toyotas potential upstart to young tuners and trackday enthusasists and people looking for basic transportation is dead, dead because people would rather buy corollas, ick

[dogsridewith]

Still too many fake, arbitrary and useless details, lines and shapes. (Compare w/ a gen 2 yaris 4-door hatchback...and remember that some or many places in the US sold Yaris but kept it a secret at every organizational level...much as Ford USA did w/ the excellent little new Fiesta in 1978--the first "world car.")

Less is more.

Form follows function.

KISS (Keep it simple, stupid)

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by dogsridewith

Still too many fake, arbitrary and useless details, lines and shapes. (Compare w/ a gen 2 yaris 4-door hatchback...and remember that some or many places in the US sold Yaris but kept it a secret at every organizational level...much as Ford USA did w/ the excellent little new Fiesta in 1978--the first "world car.")

Less is more.

Form follows function.

KISS (Keep it simple, stupid)

still needs 200 hp optional awd telescoping wheel and heated and powered seats and a 5 speed or higher auto trans for better performance.

if ford can front the bill for that stuff in cars under 18k so can toyota, its just toyota being stubborn and not wanting to apex there best selling car the corolla.

its kinda like apple making there best software and hardware available on only the most expensive products.

[dogsridewith]

I won't say Toyota couldn't include a hot variant for you, but my 2007 Yaris has plenty of performance in all regards for my needs and tastes. (So much joy when its super tight U-turn saves a trip around a block in the age of one-way streets. Or turn into a mall parking lane and the first space in one arc.)

There should also be, on the same platform, an actual 4-door wagon in the line, and maybe even a high roof puffed-up sort of minivan.

Mind of Toyota should look at their circa 1990 Corolla Wagon (the last subcompact Corolla, where the 2wd wagon had the roof pushed up a bit and serious rear overhang w/ a large upright hatch...the 4wd wagon was pretty different and didn't excite me). Also the way Honda simultaneously included several variants of a new Civic generation in 1984. (The wagon was amazing...though one useless feature was the little roof windows at the very back.)

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by dogsridewith

I won't say Toyota couldn't include a hot variant for you, but my 2007 Yaris has plenty of performance in all regards for my needs and tastes. (So much joy when it's super tight U-turn saves a trip around a block in the age of one-way streets. Or turn into a mall parking lane and the first space in one arc.)

There should also be, on the same platform, an actual 4-door wagon in the line, and maybe even a high roof puffed-up sort of minivan.

Mind of Toyota should look at their circa 1990 Corolla Wagon (the last subcompact Corolla, where the 2wd wagon had the roof pushed up a bit and serious rear overhang w/ a large upright hatch...the 4wd wagon was pretty different and didn't excite me). Also the way Honda simultaneously included several variants of a new Civic generation in 1984. (The wagon was amazing...though one useless feature was the little roof windows at the very back.)

the mentalitiy of its fast enough its good enough etc is whats making this thing stagnate because toyota sees it sells hits there target of like 5000 and then keeps using the same platform, the more people complain about it needing to change or want a hot variant with nice things and stuff the more its going to happen, right now theres nobody for it or speaking about it at all so toyota has no reason we prob need atleasts 10,000 people willing to thrown down a 5k deposit on a hot variant for toyota to be happy.

i mean i am kind of working on my own variant of the GRMN using two different platforms, maybe if people throw money my way to "development" i can bring it to toyota HQ and convince them to mass produce it.

edit: just realized 50m is a HUGE budget for a hot hatch, but it would really get toyota talking. I know how to save this hatch but toyota wont let me/ help me do shit and its so infuriating. i may not have an engineering background but i spend about 17 hours a day planning my build and have the technical specs of this entire this gen lineup, if thats not dedication then idk what isnt.